Re: Herds of cats

2005-12-24 Thread Steve Holden
Alex Martelli wrote: [...] > Still, I'm not disputing that CA "got screwed"... though it looks like > they did it to themselves -- they didn't stop to consider the need to > WOO developers to actually get them onboard as a part of the overall > deal, just sort of assumed they "came with the package

Re: Herds of cats

2005-12-23 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >CA pretty clearly got screwed on this deal. They have since >open-sourced the Ingres product. YM "CA screwed themselves in this deal." HTH. HAND. (That's my take based on the history of Computer Associates and a few casual

Re: Herds of cats

2005-12-23 Thread Alex Martelli
Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Alex Martelli wrote: > >> Not a bad point at all, although perhaps not entirely congruent to > >> open > >> source: hiring key developers has always been a possibility (net of > >> non-compete agreements, but I'm

Re: Herds of cats

2005-12-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alex Martelli wrote: >> Not a bad point at all, although perhaps not entirely congruent to >> open >> source: hiring key developers has always been a possibility (net of >> non-compete agreements, but I'm told California doesn't like those). California pl

Re: Herds of cats

2005-12-23 Thread Steve Holden
Alex Martelli wrote: > Nicola Musatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... > Ah, the closed source days! Back then you could just buy the company and be done with it. Now you have to chase developers one by one all over the world... ;-) >>> >>>. >>>You propellor-head

Re: Herds of cats

2005-12-23 Thread Alex Martelli
Nicola Musatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > >Ah, the closed source days! Back then you could just buy the company > > >and be done with it. Now you have to chase developers one by one all > > >over the world... ;-) > > . > > You propellor-heads (I write that in all fond

Re: Herds of cats (was: Guido at Google)

2005-12-23 Thread Nicola Musatti
Cameron Laird wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Nicola Musatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . > >Ah, the closed source days! Back then you could just buy the company > >and be done with it. Now you have to chase developers one by one all > >over the world... ;-) >