Paul Rubin wrote:
> Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > But ordinary programmers write real-world applications with shared data
>> > all the time, namely database apps.
>>
>> I don't call that shared data because access to the shared data is
>> arbitrated by a third party - namely the databa
Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > But ordinary programmers write real-world applications with shared data
> > all the time, namely database apps.
>
> I don't call that shared data because access to the shared data is
> arbitrated by a third party - namely the database. I mean where 2 or
>
Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Michael Sparks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Kamaelia doesn't attempt concurrency at all. Its main idea is to use
>> > generators to simulate microthreads.
>>
>> Regarding Kamaelia, that's not been the case for over a year now.
>>
>> We've had threaded components as wel
"Michael Sparks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Kamaelia doesn't attempt concurrency at all. Its main idea is to use
> > generators to simulate microthreads.
>
> Regarding Kamaelia, that's not been the case for over a year now.
>
> We've had threaded components as well as generator based ones s
Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Ramon Diaz-Uriarte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > You might also want to check
> > http://www.lindaspaces.com/products/NWS_overview.html
> > by the guys who "invented" Linda.
>
> Cool, I guess.
>
> > (The Oz language/Mozart system is a good example of a different and
> > very
Paul Rubin wrote:
> "mystilleef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I use D-Bus (Python). I recommend it. I don't know how cross platform
> > it is. However, it supports message passing of most built-in (strings,
> > ints, lists, dictionaries etc) Python objects accross processes. You
> > can mimick
Paul Rubin wrote:
> "mystilleef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I use D-Bus (Python). I recommend it. I don't know how cross platform
> > it is. However, it supports message passing of most built-in (strings,
> > ints, lists, dictionaries etc) Python objects accross processes. You
> > can mimick c
"mystilleef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I use D-Bus (Python). I recommend it. I don't know how cross platform
> it is. However, it supports message passing of most built-in (strings,
> ints, lists, dictionaries etc) Python objects accross processes. You
> can mimick clean Erlang-like concurrency
You may, of course, also have a look at JavaSpaces or TSpaces (both in Java).JavaSpaceshttp://java.sun.com/docs/books/jini/javaspaces/
http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/tools/JavaSpaces/index.htmlhttp://www.javaworld.com/jw-11-1999/jw-11-jiniology.htmlTSpaces
http://www.almaden.ibm.co
On 17 Sep 2006 00:55:09 -0700, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> "Ramon Diaz-Uriarte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > You might also want to check
> > http://www.lindaspaces.com/products/NWS_overview.html52
> > by the guys who "invented" Linda.
>
> Cool, I guess.
I've only play
"Ramon Diaz-Uriarte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You might also want to check
> http://www.lindaspaces.com/products/NWS_overview.html
> by the guys who "invented" Linda.
Cool, I guess.
> (The Oz language/Mozart system is a good example of a different and
> very neat approach to concurrency; som
Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> > Are there any other concurrency options I've not discovered yet?
>
> PyMPI?
>
> Ironpython?
>
I'm looking at IronPython right now. I'm attempting to get it to run
pybench, but first, I think I have to work out how to enable
tracebacks...
When the dual core notebook fina
> Are there any other concurrency options I've not discovered yet?
PyMPI?
Ironpython?
Sincerely,
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I use D-Bus (Python). I recommend it. I don't know how cross platform
it is. However, it supports message passing of most built-in (strings,
ints, lists, dictionaries etc) Python objects accross processes. You
can mimick clean Erlang-like concurrency with it. It is the future of
IPC on Desktop Unix
Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> well these guys seem to think there are, perhaps it's a joke
> http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6
Wow! Yes, it seems to be real ("Clovertown" 4-core cpu). See:
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/07/idf_keynotes_welcome_to_intel_3-point-0/
Th
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> No I think they tried to just run a lot of processes at once and they
>> got the 8 core by just substituting the two dual cores with two quads.
>
> Huh?! There are no quad core x86 cpu's as far as I know ;).
>
well these guys seem
Simon Wittber wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > Rumour has it that recent versions of Windows provide fork-like
> > semantics through a system call. Your mission is to integrate this
> > transparently into the standard library's os.fork function. ;-)
>
> I'm not sure I'm up to this kind of low level
Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> No I think they tried to just run a lot of processes at once and they
> got the 8 core by just substituting the two dual cores with two quads.
Huh?! There are no quad core x86 cpu's as far as I know ;).
> I used occam back in the eighties with ibm pcs a
Paul Boddie wrote:
> Simon Wittber wrote:
> > Michael wrote:
> > > Also, Paul Boddie posted a module for parallel systems a while back as
> > > well
> > > which might be useful (at least for ideas):
> > >* http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/parallel
> > >
> > I've just noticed that os.fork is n
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Nobody seems to have mentioned POSH http://poshmodule.sourceforge.net
>> which used almost to work. I assume it's busted for later pythons and
>> the author says it's just a demonstration.
>
> Yeah, it's been mentioned.
>
>> Anandtec
Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Nobody seems to have mentioned POSH http://poshmodule.sourceforge.net
> which used almost to work. I assume it's busted for later pythons and
> the author says it's just a demonstration.
Yeah, it's been mentioned.
> Anandtech demoed an 8 core mac pro mac
Simon Wittber wrote:
> Paul Rubin wrote:
>> "Simon Wittber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> I've just noticed that os.fork is not available on Win32. Ouch.
>> Use the subprocess module.
>
> I can't see how subprocess.Popen can replace a fork. Using a manually
> started process is not really viable
Simon Wittber wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > Also, Paul Boddie posted a module for parallel systems a while back as well
> > which might be useful (at least for ideas):
> >* http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/parallel
> >
>
> I've checked this out, it looks like a good idea which I could build
> fu
"Simon Wittber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I can't see how subprocess.Popen can replace a fork. Using a manually
> started process is not really viable, as it does not automatically
> share pre-built (read-only) data between the processes. If it can, I'd
> really like to know how...
Either with
Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Simon Wittber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I've just noticed that os.fork is not available on Win32. Ouch.
>
> Use the subprocess module.
I can't see how subprocess.Popen can replace a fork. Using a manually
started process is not really viable, as it does not automaticall
"Simon Wittber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've just noticed that os.fork is not available on Win32. Ouch.
Use the subprocess module.
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Michael wrote:
> Also, Paul Boddie posted a module for parallel systems a while back as well
> which might be useful (at least for ideas):
>* http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/parallel
>
I've checked this out, it looks like a good idea which I could build
further on.
I've just noticed that os
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Laird) writes:
> Me, too. I'd love to talk over Linda with other aficionados,
> and/or hunt together for an excuse to use her/it.
How about an Mnesia-like database for Python? (Mnesia is an embedded
database for Erlang programs.)
I see in the PyLinda page that
* 1
On 9/13/06, Carl J. Van Arsdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cameron Laird wrote:
> > Tim Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(...)
> >> | other types of concurrency which I might be able to use. I really like
> >> | the PyLinda approach
> >>
(...)
> > .
> > Me, too. I'd love
Cameron Laird wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Tim Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> .
> .
> .
>
>> | I know threads won't help (in CPython at least) so I'm investigating
>> | other types of concurrency which I might b
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.
.
.
>| I know threads won't help (in CPython at least) so I'm investigating
>| other types of concurrency which I might be able to use. I really like
>| th
John Henry wrote:
> I don't know what CPython is but I have developed a Python application
> under Windows that utilize the Dure Core CPU when it's present.
It's the default python implementation, the one you find at python.org.
It happens to be written in C. Other python implementations included
I don't know what CPython is but I have developed a Python application
under Windows that utilize the Dure Core CPU when it's present.
I don't know that I can say for sure that "threads won't help". Have
you done some testing before using other approaches to see if it indeed
won't help?
Simon W
Simon Wittber wrote:
> I've just bought a new notebook, which has a dual core CPU.
>
> I write cross platform games in Python, and I'd really like to be able
> to use this second core (on my machine, and on user's machines) for any
> new games I might write.
>
> I know threads won't help (in CPy
"Simon Wittber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> For game programming purposes, I was hoping someone could point me to a
> technique for sharing objects across Python processes, preferably
> without any kind of marshal/unmarshal steps. It's a long shot, I know.
> To be viable, I'll need to be able to
| > But I have the feeling I'm teaching my grandmother... Is that
| > the kind of thing you were after? Or not?
|
| I'm not familiar with the expression 'teaching my grandmother'. What
| exactly does it mean?
Teaching my grandmother to suck eggs (and probably several variants
with other relatives
Tim Golden wrote:
> + Pyro - http://pyro.sf.net
> + Corba - eg omniorb http://omniorb.sourceforge.net/
> + SPyRO - http://lsc.fie.umich.mx/~sadit/spyro/spyro.html
> + mmap - (built-in module) http://docs.python.org/lib/module-mmap.html
> + twisted - (because it can do everything), esp.
> http://twi
"Simon Wittber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Are there any other concurrency options I've not discovered yet?
I've been wondering about the different Python MPI bindings that are
out there, and whether they might make sense for general purpose
concurrency when they were designed mostly for parall
[Simon Wittber]
| I write cross platform games in Python, and I'd really like to be able
| to use this second core (on my machine, and on user's
| machines) for any new games I might write.
| I know threads won't help (in CPython at least) so I'm investigating
| other types of concurrency which
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