Alex Barna writes:
> I know that this question has been asked for several times,
[…]
> So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation [with Python]) ?
Alex Barna writes:
> It makes me doubt: is Python the correct language to do GUI
> automation ?
Your questions are definitely on-topic
I'm afraid that my first post has not been understood correctly and
most of the following posts are OT, as Ben Finney indicated.
The GUI automation has a long history, perhaps since the first
windowing system was invented. For years I've been doing this using
several different technologies/languag
On Aug 9, 8:10 am, Alex Barna wrote:
> I know that this question has been asked for several times, but it
> surprises that there is no tool under very active development and the
> community activities are very low (mailing list posts).
>
> All the tools listed in:
>
> http://pycheesecake.org/wiki/
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> ... nobody's talking about using automated testing to figure out
>> what users think.
>
> That???s the trouble. What???s the point of a GUI, then?
OK, now you're just trolling.
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On 2010-08-11, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Mouse and keyboard event recording software used to be one of the killer
> apps for power users back in the days of classic Apple Mac and early
> versions of Windows. I'm not entirely sure why they've faded away... it
It faided away because automation ba
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:12:49 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Automating a GUI
> isn't done to test how well the GUI works for real users.
Or to put it another way... automated tests aren't useful for usability
testing, regardless of whether one is testing a GUI app or a CLI app.
> It's done main
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:50:15 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> ... nobody's talking about using automated testing to figure out what
>> users think.
>
> That’s the trouble. What’s the point of a GUI, then?
Are you trolling, or do you really fail to under
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message
, Alex
Barna wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Can???t understand the point to it. ???GUI automation??? is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do man
Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> > ... nobody's talking about using automated testing to figure out
> > what users think.
>
> That’s the trouble. What’s the point of a GUI, then?
I've no idea what you're asking any more. The above response seems like
a total no
In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
> ... nobody's talking about using automated testing to figure out
> what users think.
That’s the trouble. What’s the point of a GUI, then?
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On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> Automated GUI intended to uncover problems in the underlying program
>> functionality ...
>
> That ???underlying??? functionality has nothing to do with the GUI,
> then. Why not test it directly, rather than go thro
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Robert
> Kern wrote:
>
>> On 2010-08-10 21:57 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message
>>> , Alex
>>> Barna wrote:
>>>
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> Can???t understand the point to it. ???GUI automation??? i
Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> > Automated GUI intended to uncover problems in the underlying program
> > functionality ...
>
> That “underlying” functionality has nothing to do with the GUI, then. Why
> not test it directly, rather than go through the GUI?
In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
> Automated GUI intended to uncover problems in the underlying program
> functionality ...
That “underlying” functionality has nothing to do with the GUI, then. Why
not test it directly, rather than go through the GUI?
> Automated GUI testing often isn't even b
In message , Robert
Kern wrote:
> On 2010-08-10 21:57 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message
>> , Alex
>> Barna wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>
Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction
in terms, because a GUI is designed for
Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
> Alex Barna wrote:
>
> > On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> >
> >> Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a
> >> contradiction in terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans
> >> to do manual tasks, not ones that can be automated.
> >
>
On 2010-08-10 21:59 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message<4c61a4f5$0$5804$426a3...@news.free.fr>, News123 wrote:
On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI
On 2010-08-10 21:57 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message
, Alex
Barna wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks,
not ones that can be automat
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <4c61a4f5$0$5804$426a3...@news.free.fr>, News123 wrote:
>> On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
>>> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>
Can???t understand the point to it. ???GUI automation??? is a
contradiction in term
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message
>, Alex
> Barna wrote:
>
>> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>
>>> Can???t understand the point to it. ???GUI automation??? is a contradiction
>>> in
>>> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks,
>>> not
In message <4c61a4f5$0$5804$426a3...@news.free.fr>, News123 wrote:
> On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
>
>> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>
>>> Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
>>> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do
In message
, Alex
Barna wrote:
> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>
>> Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
>> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks,
>> not ones that can be automated.
>
> Automating GUI is for testing.
On 08/10/10 20:13, News123 wrote:
On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro> Can’t understand the point
to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks, not
ones that can be automated.
On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Can’t understand the point
> to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
>> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks, not
>> ones that can be automated.
>
> Automating GUI is for t
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Can’t understand the point
to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks, not
> ones that can be automated.
Automating GUI is for testing.
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On Aug 10, 5:56 am, alex23 wrote:
> Alex Barna wrote:
> > So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation) ?
>
> Either someone cares enough to do something about it, or everyone just
> defaults to using AutoIT-like tools.
There were a lot of development but then all ceased, except pywinau
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:05:12 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message
> <56a18e2b-4967-4a63-852e-1eb53bb6e...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Alex
> Barna wrote:
>
>> So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation) ?
>
> Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradi
In message
<56a18e2b-4967-4a63-852e-1eb53bb6e...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Alex
Barna wrote:
> So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation) ?
Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual t
Alex Barna wrote:
> So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation) ?
Either someone cares enough to do something about it, or everyone just
defaults to using AutoIT-like tools.
Which Python implementation are you planning on contributing to?
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