Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Rustom Mody wrote: > On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:36:25 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote: > > Rustom Mody wrote: > > > > Heh! You make it sound that the character model is the most important > > > thing > > > in choosing a language! > > > There are people using Fortran -- with not i

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/08/2014 16:04, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Thank goodness for Python3, which has freed us from these archaic confusions. It had to happen. Cue our resident unicode expert who will tell us yet again how fatally flawed the FSR is but once again fail to explain why. Hum, which microbenchmark

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick : >>> >>> display artist names like M�tley Cr�e and Beyonc�, I would be more >>> >> Your mail client seems to be 7-bit ASCII!! >>> > No it came through fine here, originally. >> >>> I saw it fine (news:comp.lang.python>), but there were no MIME >>> headers. MIME might not

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Olaf Hering
On Mon, Aug 25, Michael Torrie wrote: > No it came through fine here, originally. It must be Google Groups that > messed up the characters in displaying the message and in your reply. Likely not. The header I got with msgid lacks basic headers like "Content-Type:" and "Content-Transfer-Encoding

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Monday, August 25, 2014 7:56:55 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> Michael Torrie: > >> > On 08/25/2014 06:24 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: >> >>> display artist names like M�tley Cr�e and Beyonc�, I would be more >> >> Your mail client seems to

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, August 25, 2014 7:56:55 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Michael Torrie: > > On 08/25/2014 06:24 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: > >>> display artist names like M�tley Cr�e and Beyonc�, I would be more > >> Your mail client seems to be 7-bit ASCII!! > > No it came through fine here, origina

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Michael Torrie : > On 08/25/2014 06:24 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: >>> display artist names like M�tley Cr�e and Beyonc�, I would be more >> >> Your mail client seems to be 7-bit ASCII!! > > No it came through fine here, originally. It must be Google Groups > that messed up the characters in displayi

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Michael Torrie
On 08/25/2014 06:24 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: >> ... I wouldn't care much if I could only print 7-bit ascii. >> If I was writing code to serve music on the web and had to >> display artist names like M�tley Cr�e and Beyonc�, I would be more >> concerned about the character model. > > Funny!! > Your

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:36:25 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote: > Rustom Mody wrote: > > Heh! You make it sound that the character model is the most important thing > > in choosing a language! > > There are people using Fortran -- with not intention of finding > > an alternative. > Different p

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Rustom Mody wrote: > Heh! You make it sound that the character model is the most important thing > in choosing a language! > There are people using Fortran -- with not intention of finding > an alternative. Different people have different needs. If I was writing code to do number

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:11:39 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Sure. And your reduction of AWS bills sounds great. Just make sure you >> don't consume the entire extra coder's time doing things that Python >> would have done for you

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Rustom Mody : > Heh! You make it sound that the character model is the most important > thing in choosing a language! That's because the "character model" is the raison-d'être for Python3. As far as Go goes, I think it's an interesting approach, but marred by the Google tie-in. You must have a G

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-25 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:11:39 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > Sure. And your reduction of AWS bills sounds great. Just make sure you > don't consume the entire extra coder's time doing things that Python > would have done for you. Go's character model is inferior to Python > 3's (or at l

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-24 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/24/2014 10:57 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: my initial reason for even looking at GO, was because, I noticed that if I wanted to move my largest clients app from Python 2.x to 3.x it was almost a rewrite. idlelib comprises about 60 .py files. The 2.7 versus 3.4 versions are perhaps 99%

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > I remember doing some browsing around, and the pooco people that make jinja2 > were not fans of python3(I forget the blog post), I got scared because a > very large portion of my income was based on a single client... So since we > were hav

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-24 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. > wrote: > > my initial reason for even looking at GO, was because, I noticed that if > I > > wanted to move my largest clients app from Python 2.x to 3.x it was > almost a > > rewrite

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > my initial reason for even looking at GO, was because, I noticed that if I > wanted to move my largest clients app from Python 2.x to 3.x it was almost a > rewrite. and then when I noticed the libraries for python 3.x were > limited, a

Re: GO vs Python

2014-08-24 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > I spent a few weeks looking at Go and have to say you can see a lot of > Python's influence in Go, however my question to this list for others who > are doing real work with Go and Python have you encountered any scenarios > in which Go outm