> Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
> > It still manages to retain flexibility, but you're basically stuck
> > with Django's ORM
>
> You're by no way "stuck" with Django's ORM - you are perfectly free
> not to use it. But then you'll obviously loose quite a lot of useful
> feat
Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
It still manages to retain flexibility, but you're basically stuck with
Django's ORM
You're by no way "stuck" with Django's ORM - you are perfectly free not
to use it. But then you'll obviously loose quite a lot of useful
features and 3rd part apps...
You lose most of
> Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
> >> Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
> Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support,
> huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit
> more mature and stable...
> >>>
> >>> One strong point in favour of Django: it
Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support,
huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit more
mature and stable...
One strong point in favour of Django: it follows Python's philosophy of
"bat
> On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Emmanuel Surleau wrote:
> > Compared to custom tags in, say, Mako? Having to implement a mini-
> > parser for
> > each single tag when you can write a stupid Python function is
> > needless
> > complication.
>
> I like Mako a lot and in fact web2py template took some
On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Emmanuel Surleau wrote:
Compared to custom tags in, say, Mako? Having to implement a mini-
parser for
each single tag when you can write a stupid Python function is
needless
complication.
I like Mako a lot and in fact web2py template took some inspiration
from
> Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
> >> Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support,
> >> huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit more
> >> mature and stable...
> >
> > One strong point in favour of Django: it follows Python's philosophy of
> > "batte
One more clarification to avoid confusion. Django has "admin" and it
is great. Web2py also has something called "admin" but that is not
apples to apples.
The closest thing to Django "admin" in web2py is called "appadmin" (it
comes with it).
For example consider the following complete program:
On Oct 19, 9:01 am, flebber wrote:
> In short it seems to me that Django and Web2py include more "magic" in
> assisting oneself to create you web/application, whilst Pylons and
> Werkzueg leave more control in the users hands hopefully leading to
> greater expression and power.
it depends on how
> So does web2py allow for raw sql if there is an advanced procedure
or query that needs to be performed that is outside the scope of the
web2pr orm
Yes
db.executesql("whatever you want")
http://www.web2py.com/examples/static/epydoc/web2py.gluon.sql.SQLDB-class.html
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flebber a écrit :
(snip)
In short it seems to me that Django and Web2py include more "magic" in
assisting oneself to create you web/application, whilst Pylons and
Werkzueg leave more control in the users hands hopefully leading to
greater expression and power.
I can't tell much about web2py - n
Emmanuel Surleau a écrit :
Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support,
huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit more
mature and stable...
One strong point in favour of Django: it follows Python's philosophy of
"batteries included", and feat
> web2py is interesting the author appears to be implying(I could be
> misunderstanding this) that the web2py db ORM is equal to if not
> superior to SQLAlchemy - From
> http://www.web2py.com/AlterEgo/default/show/150
I don't read that out of the post, and it almost certainly is wrong, at
least o
On Oct 20, 3:31 am, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just to clarify. I did not make any statement about "web2py is
> superior to SQLAlchemy" since that is somewhat subjective.
> SQLALchemy for example does a much better job at accessing legacy
> databases. web2py is more limited in that
> Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support,
> huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit more
> mature and stable...
One strong point in favour of Django: it follows Python's philosophy of
"batteries included", and features a large array of pl
Hello,
Just to clarify. I did not make any statement about "web2py is
superior to SQLAlchemy" since that is somewhat subjective.
SQLALchemy for example does a much better job at accessing legacy
databases. web2py is more limited in that respect and we are working
on removing those limitatio
On Oct 20, 12:32 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote:
> > web2py is interesting the author appears to be implying(I could be
> > misunderstanding this) that the web2py db ORM is equal to if not
> > superior to SQLAlchemy - From
> >http://www.web2py.com/AlterEgo/default/show/150
>
> I don't read that out
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
I don't read that out of the post, and it almost certainly is wrong, at
least on a general level. There isn't much above SQLAlchemy regarding
flexibility & power, so while simple cases might be simpler with other
ORMs, they often make more complicated ones impossible.
Bu
On Oct 19, 10:51 pm, flebber wrote:
> On Oct 19, 7:40 pm, Javier Santana wrote:
>
>
>
> > junohttp://github.com/breily/juno
>
> > it's very easy, uses sqlalchemy as ORM and jinja2 (others can be used
> > if you want) for templates.
>
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers
>
> >
On Oct 19, 7:40 pm, Javier Santana wrote:
> junohttp://github.com/breily/juno
>
> it's very easy, uses sqlalchemy as ORM and jinja2 (others can be used
> if you want) for templates.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers
>
> wrote:
> > flebber a écrit :
>
> >> Hi
>
> >> I have
juno
http://github.com/breily/juno
it's very easy, uses sqlalchemy as ORM and jinja2 (others can be used
if you want) for templates.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers
wrote:
> flebber a écrit :
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have been searching through the vast array of python frameworks
>
flebber a écrit :
Hi
I have been searching through the vast array of python frameworks
http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks and its quite astounding the
choice available.
I am looking at using a web framework for my personal project which
isn't actually aimed at developing a website as suc
On Oct 19, 10:01 am, flebber wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have been searching through the vast array of python
> frameworkshttp://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworksand its quite astounding
> the
> choice available.
>
> I am looking at using a web framework for my personal project which
> isn't actually aim
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Well, I think a we can say that a framework for "Non Content Oriented
Web Apps" is something that can help in
(*) creating N tier data aware web applications
(*) creating data-aware controls (forms etc.).
(*) managing different data sources
transparently(ZODB,MySQL,PostGreSQ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Moreover, I recently saw Dabo(http://www.dabodev.com/about), a
> framework for developing 3 tier apps with Python and wxPython(and other
> supported GUI toolkits). I have not tried it but I think something
> similar, but for web-apps, is a close definition of "A Framew
Well, with your first post you managed to get a very unclear picture of
what you mean by "non-content oriented Web Application" ;-)
Judging from your following posts, you want an easy way to construct
Web interfaces, i.e. forms. This can be done with any Web framework,
but a typical Web framework
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
There are great Python Web Application Framework. But most of them are
meant for content oriented web apps.
Is there something that can ease the development of application that
are not content oriented(I call them "NON CONTENT-ORIENTED WEB
APPLICATIONS" because I don't
Have a look a the new CherryPy (http://www.cherrypy.org).
It allows developers to build web applications in much the same way
they would build any other object-oriented Python program.
This might corespond to what you're looking for.
Remi.
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Well, I think a we can say that a framework for "Non Content Oriented
Web Apps" is something that can help in
(*) creating N tier data aware web applications
(*) creating data-aware controls (forms etc.).
(*) managing different data sources transparently(ZODB,
MySQL,PostGreSQL, etc).
(*) de-couplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Let me make an attemp at defining "Non-Content
> Oriented Web Applications".
>
> A "Non-Content Oriented Web Application":
> (1) will be accessed from web browser(obviously).
Clear enough.
> (2) will be developed using 'W3C' and other open
> standards(STRICTLY, to ensu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have started a topic that is really vauge. I knew that this topic is
very general and abstract but I think it turned out to be more general
that I had expected.
Let me make an attemp at defining "Non-Content Oriented Web
Applications".
A "Non-Content Oriented Web Applicat
I have started a topic that is really vauge. I knew that this topic is
very general and abstract but I think it turned out to be more general
that I had expected.
Let me make an attemp at defining "Non-Content Oriented Web
Applications".
A "Non-Content Oriented Web Application":
(1) will be acces
On 1 Jan 2005 20:51:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there something that can ease the development of application that
> are not content oriented(I call them "NON CONTENT-ORIENTED WEB
> APPLICATIONS" because I don't know what else to call them). I mean the
> applications like, accounting, h
You need Twisted - http://twistedmatrix.com
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On 1 Jan 2005 20:51:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But is there some sort of framework or something that is actually meant
> for such web apps,application that make heavy use of forms, have very
> high amount of user interaction etc.
>
Yeah, nevow, by those crazy twisted
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are great Python Web Application Framework. But most of them are
meant for content oriented web apps.
Is there something that can ease the development of application that
are not content oriented(I call them "NON CONTENT-ORIENTED WEB
APPLICATIONS" because I don't know
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But is there some sort of framework or something that is actually meant
for such web apps,application that make heavy use of forms, have very
high amount of user interaction etc.
Hmm, PJE's PEAK might be worth having a look at:
http://peak.telecommunity.com/
However, I'm n
Tim Churches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can you give some URL for publicly accessible examples of what you
> mean by a "NON CONTENT-ORIENTED WEB APPLICATIONS", so we can get a
> better idea of what you mean?
I don't think there was anything unclear about it. A spreadsheet
might be a good examp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
There are great Python Web Application Framework. But most of them are
meant for content oriented web apps.
Is there something that can ease the development of application that
are not content oriented(I call them "NON CONTENT-ORIENTED WEB
APPLICATIONS" because I don't
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