On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:19:05PM +0700, Lie Ryan wrote:
> But until the dictionary is rewritten, it is incorrect usage.
That's complete nonsense, much like the rest of your argument. People
use words all the time that aren't even IN a dictionary. Their
absence from any dictionary makes them n
Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It gets even worse... No Windows-based "PC" has ever used the
>"PowerPC" processor -- which had been a staple of the Macintosh before
>they went Intel...
Actually the were personal computers sold using PowerPC processors that
ran Windows NT. I
On 2008-07-21, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:56:07AM -0700, Lie wrote:
>> On Jul 19, 6:14=A0am, Derek Martin <[E
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 18:50 -0400, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 02:47:31PM -0700, Lie wrote:
> > Common usage isn't always correct.
>
> Actually it is, inherently... When usage becomes common, the language
> becomes redefined, and its correctness is therefore true by identity
>
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 02:47:31PM -0700, Lie wrote:
> Common usage isn't always correct.
Actually it is, inherently... When usage becomes common, the language
becomes redefined, and its correctness is therefore true by identity
(to borrow a mathematical term). The scholars complain for a while
> From: Derek Martin
> The term "PC" is commonly used in
> English, in the United States and other English speaking countries, to
> mean a computer running Microsoft Windows.
That isn't quite true.
My kids are heading off to college and are in the market for laptops.
The question they had f
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 16:45 -0400, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0700, Lie wrote:
> > > The term "PC" is commonly used in English, in the United States
> > > and other English speaking countries, to mean a computer running
> > > Microsoft Windows.
> >
> > As far as I am
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0700, Lie wrote:
> > The term "PC" is commonly used in English, in the United States
> > and other English speaking countries, to mean a computer running
> > Microsoft Windows.
>
> As far as I am aware, they're like that because most people aren't
> even aware t
> It very much IS the point. Language evolves based on common usage
> patterns of the people who use it.
That is inarguably correct.
> The term "PC" is commonly used in English, in the United States
> and other English speaking countries, to mean a computer running
> Microsoft Windows.
As far
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:56:07AM -0700, Lie wrote:
> government, etc. IBM PC is one of the first computers that ordinary
> people could possess, when IBM-clones appeared on the market, they're
> referred as PCs too because they are Personal Computer, a computer
> that is designed for personal use
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:56:07AM -0700, Lie wrote:
> On Jul 19, 6:14 am, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote:
> > Much like the English word "bank" (and numerous others), the term "PC"
> > has come to have several meanings, on
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:34:41PM -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:14:43 -0400, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote:
> > > Calling Windows PC seems to be someth
On Saturday 19 July 2008 22:30:29 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> I still wonder who came up with the Commodore PET -- Personal
> Electronic Transactor... yeesh... But the "Personal" was already in play
> way back then.
Probably Chuck Peddle, Jack Tramiel or Leonard Tramiel.
For your amusement:
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:02:51 -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> On 2008-07-19, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Which term applied to the TRS-80, the Apple II, Altair even...
>>
>> Not that I remember. I had a homebrew S-100
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:02:51 -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2008-07-19, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Which term applied to the TRS-80, the Apple II, Altair even...
>
> Not that I remember. I had a homebrew S-100 bus system, worked
> with varioius Commodore machines, a few
Grant Edwards schrieb:
Not that I remember. I had a homebrew S-100 bus system, worked
with varioius Commodore machines,
My C64 has a label that says "Personal Computer" on it.
So a C64 is a PC.
Sebastian
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On 2008-07-19, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:14:43 -0400, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote:
>> > Calling Windows PC seems to be something that A
On Jul 19, 6:14 am, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote:
> > Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so they would
> > not have to directly mention Windows.
>
> Actually it's something IBM did when they created the
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:32 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so they would
> > not have to directly mention Windows. Could all the places that say PC
> > that are not referring to Personal Computers in general be changed
On 2008-07-18, Martin v. Löwis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so
>> they would not have to directly mention Windows. Could all the
>> places that say PC that are not referring to Personal
>> Computers in general be changed to Win or Windows.
>
> Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so they would
> not have to directly mention Windows. Could all the places that say PC
> that are not referring to Personal Computers in general be changed to
> Win or Windows.
That's bikeshedding. If the name stops you from building you
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote:
> Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so they would
> not have to directly mention Windows.
Actually it's something IBM did when they created the IBM PC. Of
course, all IBM PCs ran MS-DOS, since that's how IBM s
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