Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM, E.D.G. wrote: > The point is, when people want to make some computer program available > for use by others around the world they might want to circulate a version of > their program that has such a simple format that anyone can understand it. > And for actual

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

"E.D.G." wrote in message news:yo-dnwfmi7_7d-jpnz2dnuvz_hqdn...@earthlink.com... Posted by E.D.G. on November 12, 2013 The following is part of a note that I just posted to the Perl Newsgroup. But it is actually intended for all computer programmers who are circulating free download s

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Q4, you could try Waterloo Graphics . Its LGPLv3 and, although Java-based, runs in Python via Py4J. It has built-in mouse interactivity/GUI editors etc that will all be active when used from Python. It is Java Swing-based, so e.g. data points can be drawn as s

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:22:05 PM UTC+8, E.D.G. wrote: > "Jim Gibson" wrote in message > > news:031120131018099327%jimsgib...@gmail.com... > > > > > One way to generate plot within a CGI program is this: > > > >To start off with, I am not a CGI expert. Also, I have several

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

"Jim Gibson" wrote in message news:031120131018099327%jimsgib...@gmail.com... One way to generate plot within a CGI program is this: To start off with, I am not a CGI expert. Also, I have several degrees in the physical sciences and many years of doing computer programming. But the

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:28:24 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 03/11/2013 18:28, rusi wrote: > > Which means take something like the pairwise function and code it > > up in python and julia -- its hardly 10 lines of code. And see > > what comparative performance you get. > Solely on

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On 2013-11-03, Jim Gibson wrote: > In article , E.D.G. > wrote: > >>My main, complex programs won't be run at Web sites. They will >> instead continue to be available as downloadable exe programs. The CGI (or >> whatever) programming work would involve relatively simple programs. But >

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On 03/11/2013 18:28, rusi wrote: Which means take something like the pairwise function and code it up in python and julia -- its hardly 10 lines of code. And see what comparative performance you get. Solely on the grounds that you've mentioned julia how about this http://blog.leahhanson.u

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:13:13 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:02:24 -0500, E.D.G. wrote: > [...] > > Since Perl has a calculation speed > > limit that is probably not easy to get around, before too long another > > language will be selected for initially doing ce

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

In article , E.D.G. wrote: >My main, complex programs won't be run at Web sites. They will > instead continue to be available as downloadable exe programs. The CGI (or > whatever) programming work would involve relatively simple programs. But > they would need to be able to generate c

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On 03/11/2013 09:47, E.D.G. wrote: "Steven D'Aprano" wrote in message news:5275fe91$0$29972$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com... http://jakevdp.github.io/blog/2013/06/15/numba-vs-cython-take-2/ http://technicaldiscovery.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/speeding-up-python-numpy-cython-and.html

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

"Steven D'Aprano" wrote in message news:5275fe91$0$29972$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com... http://jakevdp.github.io/blog/2013/06/15/numba-vs-cython-take-2/ http://technicaldiscovery.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/speeding-up-python-numpy-cython-and.html It appears that Python can do what

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:02:24 -0500, E.D.G. wrote: [...] > Since Perl has a calculation speed > limit that is probably not easy to get around, before too long another > language will be selected for initially doing certain things such as > performing calculations and plotting charts. And the existi

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Sunday, November 3, 2013 11:15:48 AM UTC+5:30, E.D.G. wrote: > "rusi" wrote: > >>Not sure what will… you may look at Julia: http://julialang.org/ >That program language speed comparison table looks quite interesting. > And I asked some of the other people that I work with to take a l

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

"William Ray Wing" wrote in message news:mailman.1934.1383320554.18130.python-l...@python.org... If you look here: http://wiki.wxpython.org/MatplotlibFourierDemo A suggestion that I would like to add is that when people make "Demo" programs like that available they might want to cre

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

"Mark Lawrence" wrote in message news:mailman.1873.1383227352.18130.python-l...@python.org... https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pywinauto/0.3.9 or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1823762/sendkeys-for-python-3-1-on-windows Python "SendKey" looks like it probably works about the same as the Perl

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

"E.D.G." wrote in message news:udgdnadga6n9vu_pnz2dnuvz_umdn...@earthlink.com... Thanks for all of the comments. I have been away from my Internet connection for several days and could not respond to them when they were first posted here. The comments have all been considered. A

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

"rusi" wrote in message news:1e63687b-4269-42d9-8700-e3a8dcc57...@googlegroups.com... Not sure what will… you may look at Julia: http://julialang.org/ That program language speed comparison table looks quite interesting. And I asked some of the other people that I work with to take a

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Nov 1, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 11/01/2013 08:42 AM, William Ray Wing wrote: >> >> Granted, this performance is based on pulling in libraries. It imports >> numpy, mathplotlib, and wx to handle the fast array calculations, the >> plotting, and the GUI respectively, but th

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On 11/01/2013 08:42 AM, William Ray Wing wrote: Granted, this performance is based on pulling in libraries. It imports numpy, mathplotlib, and wx to handle the fast array calculations, the plotting, and the GUI respectively, but those are exactly the sorts of "batteries included" libraries t

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:31 AM, "E.D.G." wrote: > Posted by E.D.G. on October 31, 2013 > > The following are several relatively basic questions regarding Python's > capabilities. I am not presently using it myself. At the moment a number of > people including myself are comparing it with o

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

> 1. How fast can Python do math calculations compared with other languages > such as Fortran and fast versions of Basic. I would have to believe that it > is much faster than Perl for doing math calculations. As others have indicated, a lot depends on the form of your calculations. There is a c

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:08:48 PM UTC+5:30, E.D.G. wrote: > Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013 > Hi Chris, >Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered. >The calculation speed question just involves relatively > simple math such as multiplications and di

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On 2013-10-31 14:49, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-10-31 14:05, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin wrote: "E.D.G." writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math s

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

Mark Lawrence writes: > On 31/10/2013 13:17, Alain Ketterlin wrote: >> "E.D.G." writes: >> >>>The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple >>> math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such >>> as sin and tan etc. >> >> These are not "simple" comp

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Robert Kern wrote: > On 2013-10-31 14:05, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin >> wrote: >>> >>> "E.D.G." writes: >>> The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplicatio

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Alain Ketterlin wrote: > Well, sure, yes, I agree with you and hope they are left to the FP > engine (still, fp ops are often multi-cycle, but that's a minor point). > > But what I meant was: a (bytecode) interpreted program will always be > slower than a compiled p

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On 2013-10-31 14:05, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin wrote: "E.D.G." writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as sin and tan etc. These are not

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

Chris Angelico writes: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin > wrote: >> "E.D.G." writes: >> >>> The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple >>> math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such >>> as sin and tan etc. >> >> These are no

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On 31/10/2013 13:17, Alain Ketterlin wrote: "E.D.G." writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as sin and tan etc. These are not "simple" computations. Any compiled language (Fortran, C

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin wrote: > "E.D.G." writes: > >> The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple >> math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such >> as sin and tan etc. > > These are not "simple" computations. > > Any com

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On 31/10/2013 10:38, E.D.G. wrote: Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013 Hi Chris, Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered. The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

"E.D.G." writes: > The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple > math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such > as sin and tan etc. These are not "simple" computations. Any compiled language (Fortran, C, C++, typically) will probably go much fas

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

In article , "E.D.G." wrote: > 1. How fast can Python do math calculations compared with other languages > such as Fortran and fast versions of Basic. I would have to believe that it > is much faster than Perl for doing math calculations. Getting a handle on Python's execution speed is not

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:38 AM, E.D.G. wrote: > Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013 no need to write that. > > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered. > > The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math > such as multiplicati

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013 Hi Chris, Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered. The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as sin and tan etc. Presently I am usin

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:31 AM, E.D.G. wrote: > Posted by E.D.G. on October 31, 2013 > > The following are several relatively basic questions regarding > Python's capabilities. I am not presently using it myself. At the moment a > number of people including myself are comparing it with o