On Apr 12, 11:39 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 4/12/2010 1:57 AM, Mensanator wrote:
>
> > Likewise, I usually don't shut down
> > when I leave work, so I can't allow orphaned processes to accumulate
> > eating up CPU and memory.
>
> So don't.
I don't. I'm complaining about the need to do that.
>
>
On Apr 12, 3:51 am, alex23 wrote:
> Mensanator wrote:
> > You think the right thing to do is just quietly work
> > around the problem and sit back and laugh knowing sooner
> > or later someone else will get burned by it?
>
> Haven't we covered argument from fallacy enough in this group by now?
>
On 4/12/2010 1:57 AM, Mensanator wrote:
Likewise, I usually don't shut down
when I leave work, so I can't allow orphaned processes to accumulate
eating up CPU and memory.
So don't.
Orphaned processes only accumulate when you use Restart Shell to abandon
a process stuck in an infinite loop. I
Mensanator wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:51�pm, alex23 wrote:
Mensanator wrote:
3.x won't be adopted by WINDOWS developers WHO USE IDLE until it's fixed.
I think you left your hyperbole level too high so I turned it down for
you. I don't know of _anyone_ who uses IDLE to run production code,
nor do I
Mensanator wrote:
> You think the right thing to do is just quietly work
> around the problem and sit back and laugh knowing sooner
> or later someone else will get burned by it?
Haven't we covered argument from fallacy enough in this group by now?
Reporting the bug was exactly the right thing t
On 04/12/10 06:57, Mensanator wrote:
On Apr 11, 6:08 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:54:04 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
On Apr 11, 11:53 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:08:44 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
Maybe because I'm a user, not a developer.
You write co
On Apr 11, 6:08 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:54:04 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
> > On Apr 11, 11:53 am, Steven D'Aprano > cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:08:44 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
> >> >> > 3.x won't be adopted by developers until it's fixed. As of
On Apr 11, 11:33 pm, Lie Ryan wrote:
> On 04/12/10 04:54, Mensanator wrote:
>
> > On Apr 11, 11:53 am, Steven D'Aprano > cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:08:44 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
> > 3.x won't be adopted by developers until it's fixed. As of now, it's
> > serio
On 04/12/10 04:54, Mensanator wrote:
> On Apr 11, 11:53�am, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:08:44 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
> 3.x won't be adopted by developers until it's fixed. As of now, it's
> seriously broken and unsuitable for production.
>>
I
Mensanator wrote:
> Planning to buy a Toyota?
Did we just start playing Questions?
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:54:04 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
> On Apr 11, 11:53�am, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:08:44 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
>> >> > 3.x won't be adopted by developers until it's fixed. As of now,
>> >> > it's seriously broken and unsuitable for
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:34:50 -0700, Joaquin Abian wrote:
> On Apr 11, 6:53 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> In any case, IDLE is one IDE out of many, and not really up to
>> professional quality -- it's clunky and ugly. It isn't Python, it is a
>> tool written in Python.
>>
>>
On Apr 11, 12:00�pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 4/11/2010 12:08 AM, Mensanator wrote:
>
> > On Apr 10, 7:15 pm, Chris Rebert �wrote:
> >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Mensanator �wrote:
> >>> 3.x won't be adopted by developers until it's fixed. As of now, it's
> >>> seriously broken and unsuitabl
On Apr 11, 11:53�am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:08:44 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
> >> > 3.x won't be adopted by developers until it's fixed. As of now, it's
> >> > seriously broken and unsuitable for production.
>
> >> In what ways do you consider it broken?
>
> > Issue 8093. Re
On Apr 11, 6:53 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> In any case, IDLE is one IDE out of many, and not really up to
> professional quality -- it's clunky and ugly. It isn't Python, it is a
> tool written in Python.
>
> --
> Steven
But this is a tool that is a part of the python distribution and often
r
On 4/11/2010 12:08 AM, Mensanator wrote:
On Apr 10, 7:15�pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Mensanator wrote:
3.x won't be adopted by developers until it's fixed. As of now, it's
seriously broken and unsuitable for production.
Not. Many though will wait until 3.2 and
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:08:44 -0700, Mensanator wrote:
>> > 3.x won't be adopted by developers until it's fixed. As of now, it's
>> > seriously broken and unsuitable for production.
>>
>> In what ways do you consider it broken?
>
> Issue 8093. Remarkably, this apparently hasn't been noticed before
On Apr 10, 11:51�pm, alex23 wrote:
> Mensanator wrote:
> > 3.x won't be adopted by WINDOWS developers WHO USE IDLE until it's fixed.
>
> I think you left your hyperbole level too high so I turned it down for
> you. I don't know of _anyone_ who uses IDLE to run production code,
> nor do I follow h
Mensanator wrote:
> 3.x won't be adopted by WINDOWS developers WHO USE IDLE until it's fixed.
I think you left your hyperbole level too high so I turned it down for
you. I don't know of _anyone_ who uses IDLE to run production code,
nor do I follow how one errant IDE shows that Python 3.x as a la
On Apr 10, 7:15�pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Mensanator wrote:
> > On Apr 10, 5:45�pm, Michael Str�der wrote:
> >> average wrote:
> >> >> On behalf of the Python development team, I'm merry to announce the
> >> >> first beta
> >> >> release of Python 2.7.
>
> >> >>
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