On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote:
> On 2013-05-16, F?bio Santos wrote:
>> And in Java we have factories, builders and builderfactories.
>> What's so relevant about them? Java is high level, no?
>
> When I tried to pin down what an irrelevant detail in a computer
> program coul
On 2013-05-16, F?bio Santos wrote:
>> If I want to bake bread I hope I don't have to till a garden,
>> plant the wheat, harvest the wheat, and grind the wheat. But
>> gardening is relevant to bread baking weather or not I do it.
>
> Then memory management t is relevant to every python program
> ev
On 15 May 2013 19:33, "Neil Cerutti" wrote:
>
> On 2013-05-15, F?bio Santos wrote:
> >> It is a tautology is disguise. When you use a low level
> >> language, low level details are relevant to the scope of your
> >> program.
> >
> > I don't see it that way. I think relevance and level are two
> >
On 2013-05-15, F?bio Santos wrote:
>> It is a tautology is disguise. When you use a low level
>> language, low level details are relevant to the scope of your
>> program.
>
> I don't see it that way. I think relevance and level are two
> unrelated concepts.
>
> For example, in python you are handl
On 15 May 2013 18:29, "Neil Cerutti" wrote:
>
> On 2013-05-13, F?bio Santos wrote:
> >
> > On 13 May 2013 19:48, "Neil Cerutti" wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2013-05-13, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> >> >> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs
> >> >> require attention to the irrelevant.
> >
On 2013-05-13, F?bio Santos wrote:
>
> On 13 May 2013 19:48, "Neil Cerutti" wrote:
>>
>> On 2013-05-13, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>> >> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs
>> >> require attention to the irrelevant.
>> >>
>> >> So much a matter of debate. Indentation is irrelevan
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Dan Sommers wrote:
> And if I've designed my program the right way, what's relevant in one
> place (package, module, function, line of code) is different from what's
> relevant in another.
Absolutely. Layered systems FTW! Nothing matters but your current
layer and
On Tue, 14 May 2013 04:12:53 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs require
>>> attention to the irrelevant.
>> I think "irrelevant" in this context means stuff like memory
>> management.
On 13 May 2013 19:48, "Neil Cerutti" wrote:
>
> On 2013-05-13, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> >> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs
> >> require attention to the irrelevant.
> >>
> >> So much a matter of debate. Indentation is irrelevant, why
> >> should Python programs pay attenti
On 2013-05-13, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs
>> require attention to the irrelevant.
>>
>> So much a matter of debate. Indentation is irrelevant, why
>> should Python programs pay attention to it? Block delimiters
>> are irrelevant too, the inter
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs require
>> attention to the irrelevant.
>>
>> So much a matter of debate. Indentation is irrelevant, why should
>> Python programs pay attention to it? Block delimiters are irrelevant
> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs require
> attention to the irrelevant.
>
> So much a matter of debate. Indentation is irrelevant, why should
> Python programs pay attention to it? Block delimiters are irrelevant
> too, the interpreter should be able to figure them out fro
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> My, it's been a long time since I've seen these:
>
> http://pu.inf.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
>
> They pre-date the Zen of Python by at least a decade, and quite frankly I
> think many of them miss the mark. But whether yo
On Mon, May 13, 2013, at 05:20 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> My, it's been a long time since I've seen these:
>
> http://pu.inf.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
>
> They pre-date the Zen of Python by at least a decade, and quite frankly I
> think many of them miss the mark. But whet
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