Chris Angelico :
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> I'd say it depends on what the password is actually used for. You seem
>> to indicate it's just so you can access the internet? To me it seems
>> abusing that password is hard to impossible since it's your fibre to
>> your
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Anssi Saari wrote:
> I'd say it depends on what the password is actually used for. You seem
> to indicate it's just so you can access the internet? To me it seems
> abusing that password is hard to impossible since it's your fibre to
> your home. If the password i
Anssi Saari :
> "Frank Millman" writes:
>> To my surprise, they sent me my existing username *and* my existing
>> password, all in clear text.
>
> I'd say it depends on what the password is actually used for. You seem
> to indicate it's just so you can access the internet? To me it seems
> abusin
"Frank Millman" writes:
> Hi all
>
> This is off-topic, but I would appreciate a comment on this matter.
>
> I have just upgraded my internet connection from ADSL to Fibre.
>
> As part of the process, my ISP sent a text message to my cell phone
> with the username and password I must use to conne
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:10 pm, Frank Millman wrote:
> If this is the standard of security out there, it is no wonder we hear of
> so many attacks (and how many don't we hear of?)
Everything is broken:
https://medium.com/message/everything-is-broken-81e5f33a24e1
--
Steve
“Cheer up,” they said
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:10:40 +0200, Frank Millman wrote:
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>
> What about the second part of my query? Is it acceptable that they keep
> passwords on their system in clear text?
Absolutely not. Keeping the passwords, even encrypted, is a reckless
invitation to disaster.
Chris has done a f
Chris,
I compliment you on your succint and accurate summary of the issue.
Sounds like Frank's ISP is aspiring to be the next Yahoo...
On December 22, 2016 4:33:52 AM CST, Chris Angelico wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Frank Millman
>wrote:
>> What about the second part of my query? I
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
> Thanks for all the info, Chris.
>
> This is clearly a subject you feel strongly about!
>
> Much appreciated.
It is - partly because I've been guilty of poor password security in
the past. I speak with the voice of someone who has sighted ho
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
> What about the second part of my query? Is it acceptable that they keep
> passwords on their system in clear text?
Well no, abso
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
> What about the second part of my query? Is it acceptable that they keep
> passwords on their system in clear text?
Well no, absolutely not. I referred to "decrypting" the password,
which is all you can actually be certain of here - they may
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
> To my surprise, they sent me my existing username *and* my existing
> password, all in clear text.
>
Your concerns are entirely
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
> To my surprise, they sent me my existing username *and* my existing
> password, all in clear text.
>
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