On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:16:47 -0800, Fernando H. Sanches wrote:
> I agree that the tab/space thing should be changed. Would it be too hard
> to make the parser see if the indentation is consistent in the whole
> file?
*Something* has changed. I had a piece of code where, without realizing
it, I h
Mensanator wrote:
On Dec 5, 12:29 pm, "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hereby recommend “pish and tosh” for use by anyone who wants to
counter someone's point. It beats by a country furlong the invective
that has become regrettably common
On Dec 5, 12:29 pm, "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I hereby recommend “pish and tosh” for use by anyone who wants to
> >counter someone's point. It beats by a country furlong the invective
> >that has become regrettably common here in re
2008/12/5 Hendrik van Rooyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I second the motion to use pish and tosh for a first level of disagreement.
>
> I recommend the rather archaic "Balderdash" as the next step in the
> escalation of disagreement...
>
http://bash.org/?23396
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"Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I hereby recommend “pish and tosh” for use by anyone who wants to
>counter someone's point. It beats by a country furlong the invective
>that has become regrettably common here in recent months.
I second the motion to use pish and tosh for a first level o
Steven D'Aprano:
>I think you're talking about mixed spaces/tabs in the one module.<
Right.
>My gut feeling is that you have to have a fairly unusual set of circumstances
>before it causes actual bugs.<
I don't mix tab and spaces in my code, and my editor is able to
convert them, so after the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> comp.lang.python3k ?
> >
> >The language has undergone an incompatible divide. Hopefully the
> >community need not do the same.
>
> Pis
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> comp.lang.python3k ?
>
>The language has undergone an incompatible divide. Hopefully the
>community need not do the same.
Pish and tosh. James was clearly making a funny; there's
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:01:55 +, je.s.te.r wrote:
> Fernando H. Sanches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And I personally disliked most of the changes (specially the ones on
>> map and reduce). I hope functional programming doesn't get even more
>> hindered in future releases, because I believe th
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:09:27 -0800, bearophileHUGS wrote:
> Andreas Waldenburger:
>> Whenever has it been a pythonic ideal to "not allow" stuff? You get
>> warnings. Everything else is up to you.
>
> It's a strong source for bugs, especially for newbies, that I have hoped
> to see removed from Py
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:16:47 -0800 (PST) "Fernando H. Sanches"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 5:45 pm, Andreas Waldenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:52:38 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [snip]
> > Whenever has it been a pythonic ideal to "not allow" stuff? Yo
On Dec 4, 5:45 pm, Andreas Waldenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:52:38 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
> > >>> As you have probably guessed: nothing changed here.
> > >>> Also see:http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0666/
>
> > >> What? Do you mean it's pos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Waldenburger:
Whenever has it been a pythonic ideal to "not allow" stuff? You get
warnings. Everything else is up to you.
It's a strong source for bugs, especially for newbies, that I have
hoped to see removed from Python3 (my first request of this was years
ag
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:49:46 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's more than warnings. With properly crafted
> combinations of spaces and tabs you can get code which
> looks like it has a certain indentation to the human
> observer but which looks like it has different indent
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:46:02 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Andreas Waldenburger:
> > My point is: If you mix tabs and spaces in a way that breaks code,
> > you'll find out pretty easily, because your program will not work.
>
> - Most newbies don't know that.
> - Sometimes it may produce w
Andreas Waldenburger:
> My point is: If you mix tabs and spaces in a way that breaks code,
> you'll find out pretty easily, because your program will not work.
- Most newbies don't know that.
- Sometimes it may produce wrong results.
- And even if you are an expert when you go changing a little a
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:49:46 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Andreas> Whenever has it been a pythonic ideal to "not allow"
> Andreas> stuff? You get warnings. Everything else is up to you.
>
> It's more than warnings. With properly crafted combinations of
> spaces and tabs you can get
Andreas Waldenburger:
> Whenever has it been a pythonic ideal to "not allow" stuff? You get
> warnings. Everything else is up to you.
It's a strong source for bugs, especially for newbies, that I have
hoped to see removed from Python3 (my first request of this was years
ago). I was nearly sure to
James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> comp.lang.python3k ?
The language has undergone an incompatible divide. Hopefully the
community need not do the same.
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Barry Warsaw wrote:
On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I am
happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
comp.lang.python3k ?
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Hi,
Congratulations to the Python 3.0 team!! Great! I was able to
download the Python 3.0
documentation. Looks good. Any hints when the Mac OSX version of
Python 3.0 will
be available?
Cheers, Roger.
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> I would like to ask, how long will Python 2 be developed? Just for curiosity.
>
There won't be a 2.10 release of Python. Whether that means that 2.9
will be the last one, or whether development stops earlier, remains to
be seen.
Regards,
Martin
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On Dec 4, 4:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Andreas> Whenever has it been a pythonic ideal to "not allow" stuff? You
> Andreas> get warnings. Everything else is up to you.
>
> It's more than warnings. With properly crafted combinations of spaces and
> tabs you can get code which looks l
Andreas> Whenever has it been a pythonic ideal to "not allow" stuff? You
Andreas> get warnings. Everything else is up to you.
It's more than warnings. With properly crafted combinations of spaces and
tabs you can get code which looks like it has a certain indentation to the
human observe
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:52:38 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>> As you have probably guessed: nothing changed here.
> >>> Also see:http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0666/
> >>
> >> What? Do you mean it's possible to mix tabs and spaces still?
> >> Why?
>
> Daniel> Wh
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:30:52 -0800 "Daniel Fetchinson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> As you have probably guessed: nothing changed here.
> >> Also see:http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0666/
> >
> > What? Do you mean it's possible to mix tabs and spaces still? Why?
>
> Why not?
>
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>>> As you have probably guessed: nothing changed here.
>>> Also see:http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0666/
>>
>> What? Do you mean it's possible to mix tabs and spaces still? Why?
Daniel> Why not?
Because it has historically been a source of errors in a mixed development
>> As you have probably guessed: nothing changed here.
>> Also see:http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0666/
>
> What? Do you mean it's possible to mix tabs and spaces still? Why?
Why not?
Cheers,
Daniel
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Gerhard Häring:
> As you have probably guessed: nothing changed here.
> Also see:http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0666/
What? Do you mean it's possible to mix tabs and spaces still? Why?
Bye,
bearophile
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Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
Yay!
Thanks for all the great work.
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On Dec 3, 7:51 pm, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
Way to go and congratulations!
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Hi
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Roy H. Han
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is great, however, the link to the What's New page appears to be
> broken.
> http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/whatsnew/3.1.html
replace 3.1 with 3.0 :), so it has to be:
http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/whatsnew/
Hi,
This is great, however, the link to the What's New page appears to be
broken.
http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/whatsnew/3.1.html
RHH
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Congratulations on a fantastic work!
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Hello,
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> support and develop both Python 3 and Python 2 for the foreseeable future,
> and you can safely choose either version (or both) to use in your projects.
> W
Iain King wrote:
> [...] Props. I just looked through the What's New and the change log, but I
> couldn't find the answer to something: has any change been made to
> how tabs and spaces are used as indentation? Can they still be
> (inadvisably) mixed in one file? Or, more extremely, has one or
On Dec 4, 1:51 am, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
>
> Python 3.0 (a.k.a. "Python 3000" or "Py3k") represents a
Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Dec 3, 7:51 pm, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community,
> > I am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
>
> Congratulations! This is a great day for the Python community
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On Dec 3, 7:51 pm, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
Congratulations! This is a great day for the Python community.
Carl Banks
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>>> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
>>> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
>>>
>>> Python 3.0 (a.k.a. "Python 3000" or "Py3k") represents a major
>>> milestone in Python's history, and was nearly three years in the
>>> making. This is a new v
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Fetchinson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
>> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
>>
>> Python 3.0 (a.k.a. "Python 3000" or "Py3k") represents a major
>> milestone in Python's
> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
>
> Python 3.0 (a.k.a. "Python 3000" or "Py3k") represents a major
> milestone in Python's history, and was nearly three years in the
> making. This is a new version of th
On Dec 3, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
Props to all the folks whose hard work made this possible! You guys
rock!
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:58 AM, alex23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 11:51 am, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
>> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
>
> Thanks to you and everyone involved f
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On Dec 3, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On this page:
http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.0/
The text "This is a proeuction release" should probably read "This is
a production release". It would give a better first impression :)
Fixe
On this page:
http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.0/
The text "This is a proeuction release" should probably read "This is
a production release". It would give a better first impression :)
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א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע
2008/12/4 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I am
> happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
>
Congratulations!
I have been learning Python 2.x while paying strict attention to the
3.x [in]compatibility issue. So, I hav
On Dec 4, 11:51 am, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
> am happy to announce the release of Python 3.0 final.
Thanks to you and everyone involved for your efforts!
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