On 29 May 2013 00:44, "Dennis Lee Bieber" wrote:
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> On Tue, 28 May 2013 17:15:51 +1000, Chris Angelico
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
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> > Can we internationalize English instead of localizing Python?
> >
> > Not-entirely-joking-ly yours,
> >
> All that is req
On 28 May 2013 09:22, "Chris Angelico" wrote:
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> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Fábio Santos
wrote:
> > Just to clarify, I am suggesting to have the unchanged messages in
> > tracebacks, but having some methods in the exception to get the
exception
> > and message localised. Just like repr() a
28.05.13 11:17, Chris Angelico написав(ла):
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Fábio Santos wrote:
Just to clarify, I am suggesting to have the unchanged messages in
tracebacks, but having some methods in the exception to get the exception
and message localised. Just like repr() and str() are dir
On Tue, 28 May 2013 17:15:51 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Can we internationalize English instead of localizing Python?
We have. English is the primary international language for programmers.
(For which I am profoundly grateful.)
Japanese is also a pretty important language, but mostly in Jap
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Fábio Santos wrote:
> Just to clarify, I am suggesting to have the unchanged messages in
> tracebacks, but having some methods in the exception to get the exception
> and message localised. Just like repr() and str() are directed at different
> audiences (the progr
On 28 May 2013 08:19, "Chris Angelico" wrote:
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> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Fábio Santos
wrote:
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> > On 28 May 2013 05:17, "Vito De Tullio" wrote:
> >> I really hope really far... have you never tried to google a localized
> >> error
> >> message? :\
> >
> > Never. I don't even try.
>
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Fábio Santos wrote:
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> On 28 May 2013 05:17, "Vito De Tullio" wrote:
>> I really hope really far... have you never tried to google a localized
>> error
>> message? :\
>
> Never. I don't even try.
Same happens when someone pastes an error onto a mailing list like
On 28 May 2013 05:17, "Vito De Tullio" wrote:
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> Fábio Santos wrote:
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> >> > > Speaking of PEPs and exceptions. When do we get localized
exceptions?
> >> >
> >> > What do you mean by "localized exceptions"?
> >> >
> >> > Please, tell me it's *NOT* a proposal to send the exception message
in
> >>
Fábio Santos wrote:
>> > > Speaking of PEPs and exceptions. When do we get localized exceptions?
>> >
>> > What do you mean by "localized exceptions"?
>> >
>> > Please, tell me it's *NOT* a proposal to send the exception message in
>> > the
>> > locale language!
>> It is. I think I read it mention
On 27 May 2013 19:36, "Fábio Santos" wrote:
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> On 27 May 2013 19:23, "Vito De Tullio" wrote:
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> > Fábio Santos wrote:
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> > >> This should make life easier for us
> > >
http://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.3.html#pep-3151-reworking-the-os-and-io-exception-hierarchy
> > >
> > > Speaking of
On 27 May 2013 19:23, "Vito De Tullio" wrote:
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> Fábio Santos wrote:
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> >> This should make life easier for us
> >
http://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.3.html#pep-3151-reworking-the-os-and-io-exception-hierarchy
> >
> > Speaking of PEPs and exceptions. When do we get localized exceptions?
>
> Wha
Fábio Santos wrote:
>> This should make life easier for us
> http://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.3.html#pep-3151-reworking-the-os-and-io-exception-hierarchy
>
> Speaking of PEPs and exceptions. When do we get localized exceptions?
What do you mean by "localized exceptions"?
Please, tell me it's
On 5/27/2013 12:54 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
I think PEP 3151 is a step ahead! That's almost exactly what I was looking for.
Why did it take so long to have that implemented?
Since this PEP involved changing existing features, rather than adding
som
On 27/05/2013 17:54, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
I think PEP 3151 is a step ahead! That's almost exactly what I was looking for.
Why did it take so long to have that implemented?
Lack of volunteers.
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Thanks so much guys!
I'm not planning to prepare for every possible situation, but I certainly am
responsible to handle most common errors. So it's really important to know what
a function/method returns when called.
Exception handling may take lots of code, but I'm used to it. It's much better
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 27 May 2013 13:46:50 +0100, Fábio Santos wrote:
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>> Speaking of PEPs and exceptions. When do we get localized exceptions?
>
>
> We're waiting for you to volunteer. When can you start?
I'd love to work on that but my C is too shabb
On Mon, 27 May 2013 13:46:50 +0100, Fábio Santos wrote:
> Speaking of PEPs and exceptions. When do we get localized exceptions?
We're waiting for you to volunteer. When can you start?
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On 27 May 2013 12:41, "Mark Lawrence" wrote:
> This should make life easier for us
http://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.3.html#pep-3151-reworking-the-os-and-io-exception-hierarchy
Speaking of PEPs and exceptions. When do we get localized exceptions?
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On 27/05/2013 07:11, Cameron Simpson wrote:
BTW, I recommend importing "errno" and using symbolic names. It makes things
much more readable, and accomodates the situation where the symbols map to different
numbers on different platforms. And have a catch-all. For example:
Cheers,
This shou
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 27May2013 04:49, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
> | That's bad! I'd like to check all the IOError codes that may be
> | raised by a function/method but the information isn't there.
>
> No, you really don't.
Heh. I concur. Opening a file can
On 27May2013 04:49, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
| > From: steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info
| > On Mon, 27 May 2013 02:13:54 +0300, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
| >> Where can I find all error codes and messages that Python throws (actual
| >> codes and messages from exceptions raised by stdlib)?
| >
On 27May2013 00:53, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
| On Mon, 27 May 2013 02:13:54 +0300, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
| > Where can I find all error codes and messages that Python throws (actual
| > codes and messages from exceptions raised by stdlib)?
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| There is no list. It is subject to change from vers
> From: steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info
> Subject: Re: Python error codes and messages location
> Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 00:53:41 +
> To: python-list@python.org
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2013 02:13:54 +0300, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 02:13:54 +0300, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
> Where can I find all error codes and messages that Python throws (actual
> codes and messages from exceptions raised by stdlib)?
There is no list. It is subject to change from version to version,
including point releases.
Many funct
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