On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:42:44 -0700, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:58:14 AM UTC+12, alister wrote:
>
>> a US gallon is smaller than an Imperial Gallon a US Mile is shorter
>> than an Imperial mile and probably most importantly (because it means
>> they keep serving
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:57 am, alister wrote:
> a US gallon is smaller than an Imperial Gallon
> a US Mile is shorter than an Imperial mile
> and probably most importantly (because it means they keep serving me
> short measures) a US pint is smaller than an Imperial Pint
That's okay, they charge y
On Tuesday 12 July 2016 21:42:44 Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:58:14 AM UTC+12, alister wrote:
> > a US gallon is smaller than an Imperial Gallon
> > a US Mile is shorter than an Imperial mile
> > and probably most importantly (because it means they keep serving me
On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:58:14 AM UTC+12, alister wrote:
> a US gallon is smaller than an Imperial Gallon
> a US Mile is shorter than an Imperial mile
> and probably most importantly (because it means they keep serving me
> short measures) a US pint is smaller than an Imperial Pint
I th
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:17:58 -0700, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 5:16:53 AM UTC+12, Ian wrote:
>
>> For local variables I usually wouldn't bother with the units, but in
>> general it's a good practice to help avoid crashing your orbiter into
>> Mars.
>
> The Mars Clim
On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 2:30:00 AM UTC+12, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Force is given by the negative of the universal_gravitational_constant times
> the mass_of_first_body times mass_of_second_body divided by the square of
> the distance_between_the_bodies
>
> Cobol anyone?
Look at it this way: th
On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 5:16:53 AM UTC+12, Ian wrote:
> For local variables I usually wouldn't bother with the units, but in
> general it's a good practice to help avoid crashing your orbiter into
> Mars.
The Mars Climate Orbiter fiasco wasn’t a problem with using the wrong units
(dimensiona
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro
wrote:
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 9:05:18 PM UTC+12, Peter Otten wrote:
>
>> Life's too short for abbreviations.
>
> Why is there no abbreviation for “abbreviation”?
>
> Let me propose “brev”. Nice and ... um ... abbreviated.
abbr?
ChrisA
On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 9:05:18 PM UTC+12, Peter Otten wrote:
> Life's too short for abbreviations.
Why is there no abbreviation for “abbreviation”?
Let me propose “brev”. Nice and ... um ... abbreviated.
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On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Ian Kelly :
>
>> That's still excessive by any reasonable standards. Names should be
>> descriptive, but no more verbose than necessary. How about:
>>
>> force_N = -G * mass1_kg * mass2_kg / distance_m ** 2
>
> Why bother with tagging the na
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016, at 10:55, Ian Kelly wrote:
> force_N = -G * mass1_kg * mass2_kg / distance_m ** 2
>
> I'm fine with "G" as is because it's the standard name for the value
> in physics contexts, and it's presumably defined in the code as a
> constant. It's every bit as clear as "pi".
Shouldn
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016, 5:08 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
> >> Now even the basic IPython shell has autocomplete :-)
> >
> > Not all shells or editors are IPython, and not all abbreviations are bad.
> > Would you rather print, or
> > write_va
Ian Kelly :
> That's still excessive by any reasonable standards. Names should be
> descriptive, but no more verbose than necessary. How about:
>
> force_N = -G * mass1_kg * mass2_kg / distance_m ** 2
Why bother with tagging the names with standard units?
Somewhat related: Many programming frame
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Jussi Piitulainen
wrote:
> Ian Kelly writes:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'd like to get a quick show of hands regarding the names. Which do you
prefer?
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Newton's law F = -Gm₁m₂/r²
>
> Better seen in its normal math form:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation#Modern_form
>
> De-abbreviated
>
> Force is given by the negative of the universal_gravitational_constan
On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 8:00:00 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Newton's law F = -Gm₁m₂/r²
>
> Better seen in its normal math form:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation#Modern_form
>
> De-abbreviated
>
> Force is given by the negative of the universal_gra
On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 3:39:02 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:24 pm, Michael Selik wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016, 4:56 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:28 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >>
> >> > From fuzzy memory of sitting in statistics
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Now even the basic IPython shell has autocomplete :-)
>
> Not all shells or editors are IPython, and not all abbreviations are bad.
> Would you rather print, or
> write_values_as_strings_to_the_predefined_standard_output_file?
Also: Inter
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:24 pm, Michael Selik wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016, 4:56 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:28 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
>>
>> > From fuzzy memory of sitting in statistics classes decades ago
>> > filled with μ-σ etc I'd suggest μ gμ hμ
>>
>> In all the sta
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016, 4:56 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:28 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > From fuzzy memory of sitting in statistics classes decades ago
> > filled with μ-σ etc I'd suggest μ gμ hμ
>
> In all the stats books and references I've seen, μ is always the population
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:28 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> From fuzzy memory of sitting in statistics classes decades ago
> filled with μ-σ etc I'd suggest μ gμ hμ
In all the stats books and references I've seen, μ is always the population
mean (implicitly the arithmetic mean). When discussing the differ
Ian Kelly writes:
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> I'd like to get a quick show of hands regarding the names. Which do you
>>> prefer?
>>>
>>> hmean and gmean
>>>
>>> harmonic_mean and geometric_mean
>>
>> I'd
On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 10:56:27 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> As requested in issue 27181 on the bug tracker, I'm adding functions to
> calculate the harmonic and geometric means to the statistics module.
>
> I'd like to get a quick show of hands regarding the names. Which do you
> p
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> I'd like to get a quick show of hands regarding the names. Which do you
>> prefer?
>>
>> hmean and gmean
>>
>> harmonic_mean and geometric_mean
>
> I'd prefer the shorter names.
I'd
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'd like to get a quick show of hands regarding the names. Which do you
> prefer?
>
> hmean and gmean
>
> harmonic_mean and geometric_mean
I'd prefer the shorter names.
ChrisA
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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, 12:57 PM Robert Kern wrote:
> On 2016-07-09 17:13, Michael Selik wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:17 AM Jason Friedman
> wrote:
> >
> >>> +1 for consistency
> >
> > What do other languages use?
>
> R, the most likely candidate, doesn't have them built-in.
>
> scipy.stats
On 2016-07-09 17:13, Michael Selik wrote:
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:17 AM Jason Friedman wrote:
+1 for consistency
What do other languages use?
R, the most likely candidate, doesn't have them built-in.
scipy.stats uses gmean() and hmean()
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"I have come to believe that the
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:17 AM Jason Friedman wrote:
> > +1 for consistency
>
What do other languages use?
Even though I generally prefer complete words instead of abbreviations, if
an abbreviation is a strong standard across many statistics modules (like
"stdev" instead of "standard_deviation
>
> +1 for consistency, but I'm just fine with the short names. It's in the
> statistics module after all, so the context is very narrow and clear and
> people who don't know which to use or what the one does that they find in a
> given piece of code will have to read the docs and maybe fresh up th
On 07/09/2016 03:23 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Ethan Furman schrieb am 09.07.2016 um 08:27:
On 07/08/2016 10:49 PM, Random832 wrote:
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 01:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
hmean and gmean
harmonic_mean and geometric_mean
The latter, definitely.
My preference is also for the
Ethan Furman schrieb am 09.07.2016 um 08:27:
> On 07/08/2016 10:49 PM, Random832 wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 01:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>>> hmean and gmean
>>>
>>> harmonic_mean and geometric_mean
>>
>> The latter, definitely.
>
> My preference is also for the latter. However, if the
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> As requested in issue 27181 on the bug tracker, I'm adding functions to
> calculate the harmonic and geometric means to the statistics module.
>
> I'd like to get a quick show of hands regarding the names. Which do you
> prefer?
>
> hmean and gmean
>
> harmonic_mean and
On 07/08/2016 10:49 PM, Random832 wrote:
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 01:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
hmean and gmean
harmonic_mean and geometric_mean
The latter, definitely.
My preference is also for the latter. However, if the rest of the
module is filled with abbreviated names you may as we
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 01:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> hmean and gmean
>
> harmonic_mean and geometric_mean
The latter, definitely.
> Remember that the arithmetic mean is just called "mean".
so? (also maybe it shouldn't be?)
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Steven D'Aprano writes:
> As requested in issue 27181 on the bug tracker, I'm adding functions
> to calculate the harmonic and geometric means to the statistics
> module.
>
> I'd like to get a quick show of hands regarding the names. Which do
> you prefer?
>
> hmean and gmean
>
> harmonic_mean and
As requested in issue 27181 on the bug tracker, I'm adding functions to
calculate the harmonic and geometric means to the statistics module.
I'd like to get a quick show of hands regarding the names. Which do you
prefer?
hmean and gmean
harmonic_mean and geometric_mean
Remember that the arithm
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