Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread Ben Finney
MRAB writes: > GvR isn't our leader, we are his followers. There's a difference. :-) +1 QotW -- \ “Guaranteed to work throughout its useful life.” —packaging for | `\ clockwork toy, Hong Kong | _o__)

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread MRAB
On 08/12/2011 04:10, Rick Johnson wrote: [snip] I believe this community has a cancer. A cancer that is rotting us from the inside. A cancer that has metastasis and is spreading like wild fire. The problem with a cancer is not that it rots, but that it grows uncontrollably. *Inquisitive Joe a

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread Matt Joiner
Guido is too busy secretly pouring his cruelty and malice into a master ring to answer trolls. Help yourself to a lesser ring on your way out. On Dec 8, 2011 10:14 PM, "Andrea Crotti" wrote: > On 12/08/2011 04:10 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> ... >> >> Why has GvR not admonished the atrocious beha

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > Supposing even that Guido resigns, why do you think that the power should go > to you? > Power is not something that you can claim for, you have to earn the right, > and > ranting doesn't normally buy anything ;) Power is something you creat

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 12/08/2011 04:10 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: ... Why has GvR not admonished the atrocious behavior of some people in this community? Why has GvR not admitted publicly the hideous state of IDLE and Tkinter? Where is the rally call? Where is the community spirit? The future of Pythin is in your han

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Rick Johnson
On Dec 6, 9:52 pm, alex23 wrote: > (snip rambling nonsense) Alex, i hope you are being theatrical with all this. If not, i fear you may be putting too much stress on your heart. Please calm down. > The months in which you don't post are an absolute goddamn > _delight_ I am working on Python4000

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Rick Johnson
On Dec 6, 10:58 am, Ian Kelly wrote: (snip... beautiful retort) Ian you make some damn good points and i could not help but laugh hysterically at your dissection of Xah's tutorial. I don't 100% agree with everything Mr. Lee rants about, like for instance, documents needing to hyper link every po

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2011-12-07, Terry Reedy wrote: > It does not pretend that surrounding statements with > parentheses turns them into expressions. > ;-) I like being in a sexpression. Aww YEH! -- (Neil Cerutti) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/7/2011 5:14 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: On 12/06/2011 04:36 AM, Xah Lee wrote: i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect, it's not un

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 12/06/2011 04:36 AM, Xah Lee wrote: i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect, it's not unlike Common Lisp community and Scheme lisp c

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > I would say Mr. Lee does in fact find some usefulness of Python (as do > i) HOWEVER he also laments the asinities that plague the language, the > documentation, and especially, this community. > > Anyone who would take the time to write *articu

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > This community is chalk full (from top to bottom!) of arrogant, tech > geeking, unix hacks who look down on the "outsiders" as excrement. I > believe it's high time for these folks to eat a big slice of humble > pie -- i just fear there is not

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-06 Thread Rick Johnson
On Dec 5, 11:10 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Xah Lee wrote: > > i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is > > that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python > > community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-06 Thread Alex Mizrahi
i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect, it's not unlike Common Lisp community and Scheme lisp community. What functional programming

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-05 Thread Matt Joiner
This guy is an even better troll than that 8 guy. His spelling is equally bad. His essays make some good points, but I don't see why he doesn't shut his trap and move on. ಠ_ಠ On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, alex23 wrote: > On Dec 6, 2:36 pm, Xah Lee wrote: >> The python community is full

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-05 Thread alex23
On Dec 6, 2:36 pm, Xah Lee wrote: > The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. You do know that you could just fuck right off and leave us to it, yes? In general, it's the person who is shrilly imposing their minority opinion on a disinterested audience that deserves the title

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Xah Lee wrote: > i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is > that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python > community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect, > it's not unlike Common Lisp community an

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-05 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 5, 4:31 am, Tim Bradshaw wrote: > On 2011-12-05 11:51:11 +, Xah Lee said: > > > python has more readible syntax, more modern computer language > > concepts, and more robust libraries. These qualities in turn made it > > popular. > > Yet you still post here: why? i don't like python, an