Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-08 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
Jeremy Bowers wrote: > Then I'd honor his consistency of belief, but still consider it impolite > in general, as asking someone to do tons of work overall to save you a bit > is almost always impolite. This is not what he did, though - he did not break "the protocol" by sending in patches by email

Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-08 Thread Jeremy Bowers
On Sun, 08 May 2005 13:46:22 +, John J. Lee wrote: > I don't mean to put words into FranÃois' mouth, but IIRC he managed, > for example, GNU tar for some time and, while using some kind of > tracking system "under the covers", didn't impose it on his users. > > IMVHO, that was very nice of him

Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-08 Thread John J. Lee
Jeremy Bowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:10:46 -0400, François Pinard wrote: > > > [Martin von Löwis] > > > >> François Pinard wrote: > >> > >> > Am I looking in the wrong places, or else, should not the standard > >> > documentation more handily explain such things? >

Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-07 Thread Jeremy Bowers
On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:10:46 -0400, FranÃois Pinard wrote: > [Martin von LÃwis] > >> FranÃois Pinard wrote: >> >> > Am I looking in the wrong places, or else, should not the standard >> > documentation more handily explain such things? > >> It should, but, alas, it doesn't. Contributions are wel

Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-07 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
François Pinard wrote: > My contributions are not that welcome. If they were, the core team > would not try forcing me into using robots and bug trackers! :-) Ok, then we need to wait for somebody else to contribute a documentation patch. > Thanks. Your kind explanation, above, should make it,

Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-07 Thread François Pinard
[Martin von Löwis] > François Pinard wrote: > > > Am I looking in the wrong places, or else, should not the standard > > documentation more handily explain such things? > It should, but, alas, it doesn't. Contributions are welcome. My contributions are not that welcome. If they were, the core t

Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-07 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
François Pinard wrote: > Am I looking in the wrong places, or else, should not the standard > documentation more handily explain such things? It should, but, alas, it doesn't. Contributions are welcome. The algorithm to set sys.std{in,out}.encoding is in sysmodule.c:_PySys_Init and pythonrun.c:Py

Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-07 Thread François Pinard
[Thomas Heller] > François Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] given file `question.py' with this contents: > ># -*- coding: UTF-8 -*- > >texte = unicode("Fran\xe7ois", 'latin1') > >print type(texte), repr(texte), texte > >print type(texte), repr(texte), str(texte) > > d

Re: Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-04 Thread Thomas Heller
François Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, people. I hope someone would like to enlighten me. > > For any application handling Unicode internally, I'm usually careful > at properly converting those Unicode strings into 8-bit strings before > writing them out. > > However, this morning, I m

Q: The `print' statement over Unicode

2005-05-04 Thread François Pinard
Hi, people. I hope someone would like to enlighten me. For any application handling Unicode internally, I'm usually careful at properly converting those Unicode strings into 8-bit strings before writing them out. However, this morning, I mistakenly forgot to do so before using one Unicode string