Re: the core values of the Python "platform"

2017-09-14 Thread Rhodri James
On 14/09/17 03:22, Stefan Ram wrote: Ben Finney writes (special characters edited): As I understand it, "flat is better than nested" is talking about *hierarchies* in a code base. It's not IIUC referring to anything about the difference between expressions like you wrote. I have read »impo

Re: the core values of the Python "platform"

2017-09-14 Thread Bill
could you summarise these platform values? The talk lead me to think about what the core values of the Python "platform" are and I thought it would be good to ask this question of the community. What would you consider the top (<= 5) core values? In no particular order: - The Ze

Re: the core values of the Python "platform"

2017-09-13 Thread Sean DiZazzo
what the core values > > of the Python "platform" are and I thought it would be good to ask this > > question of the community. What would you consider the top (<= 5) core > > values? > > > > > Would that be close to the Zen of Python? The Zen of Pyt

Re: the core values of the Python "platform"

2017-09-13 Thread Ben Finney
r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes: > I have read »import this« again, after reading the above, > but there was no indication whatsoever in it that says that > it was talking about "*hierarchies* in a code base" only. Then you have no basis for claiming that the Zen of Python means

Re: the core values of the Python "platform"

2017-09-13 Thread Ben Finney
r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes: > Thomas Jollans writes: > import this > > It says »Flat is better than nested.«, which would > mean that > > x.f().g().h() > > is better than > > h( g( f( x ))) That's quite a stretch. Why would “flat is better than nested” mean that speci

Re: the core values of the Python "platform"

2017-09-13 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 2017-09-13 15:08, Darin Gordon wrote: > Bryan Cantrill gave an interesting talk recently at a Node conference about > "platform values" [1]. The talk lead me to think about what the core values > of the Python "platform" are and I thought it would be good to ask thi

Re: the core values of the Python "platform"

2017-09-13 Thread leam hall
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Darin Gordon wrote: > Bryan Cantrill gave an interesting talk recently at a Node conference about > "platform values" [1]. The talk lead me to think about what the core values > of the Python "platform" are and I thought it would be g

the core values of the Python "platform"

2017-09-13 Thread Darin Gordon
Bryan Cantrill gave an interesting talk recently at a Node conference about "platform values" [1]. The talk lead me to think about what the core values of the Python "platform" are and I thought it would be good to ask this question of the community. What would you consider

Re: Python platform/framework for new RESTful web app

2013-04-27 Thread Fábio Santos
For rest I would go with bottle. It's dead simple, and you can plug in anything you like. You can probably use django models as well, so you don't have to rewrite your model layer. Or django-smarter. On 27 Apr 2013 13:23, "Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick" wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Eric

Re: Python platform/framework for new RESTful web app

2013-04-27 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Eric Frederich wrote: > If I wanted to create a new web application (RESTful) today with Python what > are my options given the following requirements. > > * Google Account authentication > * Facebook authentication > * Managed hosting (like Google App Engine or H

Python platform/framework for new RESTful web app

2013-04-25 Thread Eric Frederich
If I wanted to create a new web application (RESTful) today with Python what are my options given the following requirements. * Google Account authentication * Facebook authentication * Managed hosting (like Google App Engine or Heroku) but with the ability to be self-hosted later down the road.

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-06-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 8:09 AM, MRAB wrote: > Look at the "Software" page: > > """We use the mpy language to program the MSP430 microcontroller. MPY is > short for Microcontroller PYthon.   mpy is based on the Python computer > language. In fact to keep things simple it is only a small subset of t

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-06-02 Thread MRAB
On 02/06/2012 22:25, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:18 AM, MRAB wrote: Putting "LaunchPad", "Python" and "MakerFaire" into Google, plus the "It has an m somewhere in it and it's 3 letters", quickly led me to: http://www.mpyprojects.com -- Heh, Google's awesome :) I was ju

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-06-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:18 AM, MRAB wrote: > Putting "LaunchPad", "Python" and "MakerFaire" into Google, plus the > "It has an m somewhere in it and it's 3 letters", quickly led me to: > > http://www.mpyprojects.com > -- Heh, Google's awesome :) I was just thinking "Hm, three letters with an M?

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-06-02 Thread MRAB
On 02/06/2012 21:47, boj wrote: There is a 3rd party programmer for the LaunchPad that lets you program it in Python, but I forgot what they were called. It has an m somewhere in it and it's 3 letters. I saw it at MakerFaire. I got their card, but lost it. If I remember the name, I'll post it her

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-06-02 Thread boj
There is a 3rd party programmer for the LaunchPad that lets you program it in Python, but I forgot what they were called. It has an m somewhere in it and it's 3 letters. I saw it at MakerFaire. I got their card, but lost it. If I remember the name, I'll post it here. -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-28 Thread garabik-news-2005-05
Tomasz Rola wrote: > If you are on tight budget and depend so much on Python, I'm afraid you > should either: > > a. grow your budget > > b. try another language such as PyMite... -- --- | Radovan Garabík http://kassiopeia.juls.savba.

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-27 Thread Gelonida N
On 05/27/2012 05:37 PM, Colin J. Williams wrote: On 26/05/2012 12:25 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: Roy Smith writes: The Rasberry Pi certainly looks attractive, but isn't quite available today. Can you run Python on an Arduino? No. YOu want a 32-bit platform with an OS and perhaps 1 meg of memory. An

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-27 Thread Colin J. Williams
On 26/05/2012 12:25 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: Roy Smith writes: The Rasberry Pi certainly looks attractive, but isn't quite available today. Can you run Python on an Arduino? No. YOu want a 32-bit platform with an OS and perhaps 1 meg of memory. And by the time you port Python to it unless it's

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread highpointe
Here is my SS: 259 71 2451 On May 26, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run > Python on today? I'm looking for something to use as a hardware > controller in a battery-powered device and want to avoid writing in C > for th

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread highpointe
Here is my SS: 259 71 2451 On May 26, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Roy Smith writes: >> The Rasberry Pi certainly looks attractive, but isn't quite available >> today. Can you run Python on an Arduino? > > No. YOu want a 32-bit platform with an OS and perhaps 1 meg of memory. > A

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread highpointe
Here is my SS: 259 71 2451 On May 26, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Ross Ridge wrote: > Roy Smith wrote: >> What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run >> Python on today? > > Not counting the Rasberry Pi, then probably a wireless router or one of > those cheap media streaming

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread highpointe
Here is my SS: 259 71 2451 On May 26, 2012, at 9:22 AM, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: > Roy Smith wrote: >> What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run >> Python on today? I'm looking for something to use as a hardware >> controller in a battery-powered device and want

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sat, 26 May 2012, Roy Smith wrote: > What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run > Python on today? I'm looking for something to use as a hardware > controller in a battery-powered device and want to avoid writing in C > for this project. > > Performance requireme

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread D'Arcy Cain
On 12-05-26 05:32 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: Roy Smith writes: It sounds like I can run one on 300mA @ 5V. For my application, I'll have about 10 A-h available at 12V (motorcycle battery). OK, the RPi should be fine power-wise in that case, though I wouldn't consider something with a 10AH motorcy

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Paul Rubin
Roy Smith writes: > It sounds like I can run one on 300mA @ 5V. For my application, I'll > have about 10 A-h available at 12V (motorcycle battery). OK, the RPi should be fine power-wise in that case, though I wouldn't consider something with a 10AH motorcycle battery to be very portable. > whi

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Roy Smith panix.com> writes: > > What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run > Python on today? I'm looking for something to use as a hardware > controller in a battery-powered device and want to avoid writing in C > for this project. It depends *which* Python. Comp

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Roy Smith
In article <7x1um6928y@ruckus.brouhaha.com>, Paul Rubin wrote: > The Raspberry Pi is not really appropriate for a low powered portable > application anyway, because of relatively high power requirements > compared to an 8 bitter without all that media playback stuff. It sounds like I can r

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > If C is really intolerable I know there are some micros that can be > programmed in BASIC. Ugh. Of those, I would strongly recommend going with C. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Paul Rubin
tinn...@isbd.co.uk writes: > Rasberry Pi is available, some have arrived, mine will arrive on > Monday or Tuesday (I'm talking about UK here). Early orders have been filled, more are being filled, but there is a huge backlong and therefore a long wait if you waited til now to order. If you want on

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Nobody
On Sat, 26 May 2012 11:34:19 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > The Rasberry Pi certainly looks attractive, but isn't quite available > today. Can you run Python on an Arduino? Things like > http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7250 are > more than I need, and the $129 price pr

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Roy Smith
In article <8ic799-gk3@chris.zbmc.eu>, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: > > Rasberry Pi is available, some have arrived, mine will arrive on > Monday or Tuesday (I'm talking about UK here). Interesting. Newark is claiming they'll have 1 piece on June 18th, and no further stock until October. htt

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread TheSeeker
On Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:34:19 AM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote: > What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run > Python on today? I'm looking for something to use as a hardware > controller in a battery-powered device and want to avoid writing in C > for this project. >

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread tinnews
Roy Smith wrote: > What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run > Python on today? I'm looking for something to use as a hardware > controller in a battery-powered device and want to avoid writing in C > for this project. > > Performance requirements are minimal. I n

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Ross Ridge
Roy Smith wrote: >What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run >Python on today? Not counting the Rasberry Pi, then probably a wireless router or one of those cheap media streaming boxes running custom firmware. >Performance requirements are minimal. I need to monitor

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Paul Rubin
Roy Smith writes: > The Rasberry Pi certainly looks attractive, but isn't quite available > today. Can you run Python on an Arduino? No. YOu want a 32-bit platform with an OS and perhaps 1 meg of memory. And by the time you port Python to it unless it's there already, you may as well have jus

Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread Roy Smith
What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run Python on today? I'm looking for something to use as a hardware controller in a battery-powered device and want to avoid writing in C for this project. Performance requirements are minimal. I need to monitor a few switches,

ANN: PiCloud's Python Platform is now open to the Public!

2010-07-19 Thread Ken Elkabany
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Re: Python platform.

2008-09-14 Thread primeq
On Sep 11, 8:56 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all; > > I wonder if there is a platform written in python. The equivalent of > the Netbeans platformhttp://platform.netbeans.org/in the Python > world. Do you know such a thing? > > Thanks a lot. > > Jonathan. Check out Er

Re: Python platform.

2008-09-11 Thread Sean DiZazzo
On Sep 11, 11:39 am, Sean DiZazzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 11, 9:59 am, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I want to build a desktop application. I am searching for some kind of > > > environment that would provide all the elements ready (Wi

Re: Python platform.

2008-09-11 Thread Sean DiZazzo
On Sep 11, 9:59 am, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I want to build a desktop application. I am searching for some kind of > > environment that would provide all the elements ready (Windows...). > > Then I would have to code the business logic only. > > start

Re: Python platform.

2008-09-11 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to build a desktop application. I am searching for some kind of environment that would provide all the elements ready (Windows...). Then I would have to code the business logic only. start here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/GuiProgramming The big ones are Tki

Re: Python platform.

2008-09-11 Thread bearophileHUGS
carriere.jonat...: > I want to build a desktop application. I am searching for some kind of > environment that would provide all the elements ready (Windows...). > Then I would have to code the business logic only. I don't think there's such thing in Python, "all elements ready" sounds strange :-)

Re: Python platform.

2008-09-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 11, 11:13 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 11, 4:19 pm, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >  > I wonder if there is a platform written in python. The equivalent of > >  > the Netbeans platformhttp://platform.netbeans.or

Re: Python platform.

2008-09-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 11, 4:19 pm, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >  > I wonder if there is a platform written in python. The equivalent of >  > the Netbeans platformhttp://platform.netbeans.org/in the Python >  > world. Do you know such a thing? > > You (or maybe the Java f

Re: Python platform.

2008-09-11 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wonder if there is a platform written in python. The equivalent of > the Netbeans platform http://platform.netbeans.org/ in the Python > world. Do you know such a thing? You (or maybe the Java folks) seem to have missed that platform has a rather specific meaning in

Python platform.

2008-09-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello all; I wonder if there is a platform written in python. The equivalent of the Netbeans platform http://platform.netbeans.org/ in the Python world. Do you know such a thing? Thanks a lot. Jonathan. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: symbol not found involving dynlink/dlopen/embedding Python [platform information]

2004-12-19 Thread Christopher Armstrong
Sorry, I forgot to put information about my platform. Debian unstable on linux kernel 2.4.20, Debian's package of Python2.3. gcc version 3.3.3 libc version 2.3.2 libc.so.6 output follows::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% /lib/libc.so.6 GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.2, by Roland McGrath et al.