Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-07-22 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Robert Kern enlightened us with: > Because he's on a public computer without one installed? Guess it's time someone wrote a good Usenet client in a Jython applet ;-) Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-07-22 Thread Robert Kern
Sybren Stuvel wrote: > Anton Vredegoor enlightened us with: > >>Some time ago I started a thread about it.(Google won't let me reply >>to older topics so I'm starting a new topic with the same title) > > Why not use a proper Usenet client? Because he's on a public computer without one installed?

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-07-22 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Anton Vredegoor enlightened us with: > Some time ago I started a thread about it.(Google won't let me reply > to older topics so I'm starting a new topic with the same title) Why not use a proper Usenet client? > A few days ago I found a Jython console applet that can be run from > a webpage: Ni

Python on a public library computer

2005-07-22 Thread Anton Vredegoor
This is about how to start a Python interpreter on a very locked down library computer. Some time ago I started a thread about it.(Google won't let me reply to older topics so I'm starting a new topic with the same title) A few days ago I found a Jython console applet that can be run from a webpa

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-24 Thread Anton Vredegoor
alex23 wrote: > In this case, it sounds like the library is providing computers for two > purposes: access to Office tools and to the internet. Given the > "everything not forbidden is permissable" attitude of most people, > unless the use is restricted to only those two activities people > legiti

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-23 Thread Piet van Oostrum
There are several ssh and telnet applets on the web. Of course it depends on the Java support in your IE. -- Piet van Oostrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-22 Thread alex23
> Maybe, but in this case I can run only IE, word, excel and powerpoint. > Do you think there is a rational reason for that? Yes. It's easier to support. As someone who has worked at administering small & large scale networks, you want that job to be as easy as possible... In this case, it sounds

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-20 Thread Anton Vredegoor
alex23 wrote: > You know, there _are_ valid reasons for libraries et.al. 'locking down' > public terminals other than fascism... Maybe, but in this case I can run only IE, word, excel and powerpoint. Do you think there is a rational reason for that? Like Tim Peters showing up, explaining that it

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-18 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Anton, >I just did a "telnet://localhost"; and >there was an error message from the appguard stating that "telnet.exe" >wasn't allowed to run. > > Err, dumb question, did you try bringing python on a USB drive and renaming python.exe to winword.exe? (yes, I have seen so-called "locked down

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-18 Thread alex23
> It's a thin line between philosophy, fear of breaking the rules and > having the security personnel throw me out of here, and trying to live > in a just world. You forgot "and making the lives of those maintaining the public terminal more difficult". You know, there _are_ valid reasons for libr

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-18 Thread Anton Vredegoor
Mike Meyer wrote: > > Sorry, no telnet. Every executable that is not listed is blocked. > > You sure? IE used to understand telnet: URLs, and would open a console > window talking to the remote end. It may have been doing it with an > external application, in which case this won't help you. Yes,

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Mike Meyer
"Anton Vredegoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Timothy Smith wrote: > >> how locked down is the computer? there's a few (brave) public access >> unix shell providers out there. if you could run telnet you could use > them > > Sorry, no telnet. Every executable that is not listed is blocked. You

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Lucas Raab
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Here's my situation: > > I'm typing this in a public library on a computer with OS windows 2000 > server. I can run Internet explorer, word, excel and powerpoint, that's > it. Maybe java, but it seems to be flaky. > > I want to run python scripts from this computer. At

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread John J. Lee
"Anton Vredegoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Chris Lambacher topposted: > > > usb key and moveable python. > > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/movpy/ > > I have a usb card reader and I can use it. That saves me from having to > have remote storage at least. However I can only save files, n

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread John J. Lee
"Anton Vredegoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John J. Lee wrote: > > > Why not Jython? > > There's no command prompt! The file menu from IE is also gone. There is > a sun Java console but it looks like this: [...] ISTR (maybe incorrectly) there's a Jython shell you can run in IE. John -- h

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Anton Vredegoor
Christos TZOTZIOY Georgiou wrote: > I am not sure I will help you (uncertainty based on the part I snipped), > but the part so far can be easilly solved if you install Python for > single user inside the "Documents and settings\" folder (or > whatever it is called). I did in a similar case. .msi

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread TZOTZIOY
On 14 May 2005 04:21:04 -0700, rumours say that "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written: >I'm typing this in a public library on a computer with OS windows 2000 >server. I can run Internet explorer, word, excel and powerpoint, that's >it. Maybe java, but it seems to be flaky. >

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Anton Vredegoor
Chris Lambacher topposted: > usb key and moveable python. > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/movpy/ I have a usb card reader and I can use it. That saves me from having to have remote storage at least. However I can only save files, not open them, except if I use word, excel or powerpoint. The

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Anton Vredegoor
Robert Kern wrote: > There is a Java SSH client that runs in the browser. > > http://www.oit.duke.edu/sa/security/ssh.html Great! I have a terminal. I can't figure out how to start jython from there though. Anton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Robert Kern
Anton Vredegoor wrote: > Timothy Smith wrote: > > >>how locked down is the computer? there's a few (brave) public access >>unix shell providers out there. if you could run telnet you could use > > them > > Sorry, no telnet. Every executable that is not listed is blocked. For > example I can dow

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Anton Vredegoor
Timothy Smith wrote: > how locked down is the computer? there's a few (brave) public access > unix shell providers out there. if you could run telnet you could use them Sorry, no telnet. Every executable that is not listed is blocked. For example I can download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.ne

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Anton Vredegoor
John J. Lee wrote: > Why not Jython? There's no command prompt! The file menu from IE is also gone. There is a sun Java console but it looks like this: Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.4.2_06 Using JRE version 1.4.2_06 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\Documents and Settings\x

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-17 Thread Anton Vredegoor
John J. Lee wrote: > Why not Jython? There's no command prompt! The file menu from IE is also gone. There is a sun Java console but it looks like this: Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.4.2_06 Using JRE version 1.4.2_06 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\Documents and Settings\x

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-16 Thread flamesrock
Panix.com seems a little on the expensive side.. 10$/mo? Roy Smith wrote: > Timothy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there's a few (brave) public access unix shell providers out there. if > > you could run telnet you could use them > > If you want to go that route, I highly suggest panix.com.

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-16 Thread Roy Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Lambacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > usb key and moveable python. > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/movpy/ That's pretty cool. Python on a stick! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-16 Thread Roy Smith
Timothy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there's a few (brave) public access unix shell providers out there. if > you could run telnet you could use them If you want to go that route, I highly suggest panix.com. They've been in business forever, are geek friendly, and have a technical support

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-16 Thread Chris Lambacher
usb key and moveable python. http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/movpy/ On 5/16/05, Timothy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John J. Lee wrote: > > >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > >>Here's my situation: > >> > >>I'm typing this in a public library on a computer wit

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-16 Thread Timothy Smith
John J. Lee wrote: >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >>Here's my situation: >> >>I'm typing this in a public library on a computer with OS windows 2000 >>server. I can run Internet explorer, word, excel and powerpoint, that's >>it. Maybe java, but it seems to be flaky. >> >>

Re: Python on a public library computer

2005-05-16 Thread John J. Lee
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's my situation: > > I'm typing this in a public library on a computer with OS windows 2000 > server. I can run Internet explorer, word, excel and powerpoint, that's > it. Maybe java, but it seems to be flaky. > > I want to run python scripts

Python on a public library computer

2005-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's my situation: I'm typing this in a public library on a computer with OS windows 2000 server. I can run Internet explorer, word, excel and powerpoint, that's it. Maybe java, but it seems to be flaky. I want to run python scripts from this computer. At home I have a multi-computer network (f