Re: Python linker

2006-07-24 Thread Ben Sizer
Alex Martelli wrote: > What framework (if any) is your Visual C++ code using? If it's using > wxWidgets (the framework underlying wxPython) I very much doubt that it > can be a few kilobytes -- unless the wxWidgets DLL is already installed > on the target machines so that it doesn't need to be pac

Re: Python linker

2006-07-20 Thread Alex Martelli
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I develop shareware applications that need to be extremely slim (less > than 1 MB is preferable). > > Delphi applications easily meet this requirement and I can expect end > users to download the .NET framework (if they don't already have it!). > > However, I cannot

Re: Python linker

2006-07-20 Thread Alex Martelli
Ben Sizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sion Arrowsmith wrote: > > Er, what? How are you generating your standalone executables? What > > size is "acceptable"? python24.dll is only 1.8M -- surely on any > > non-embedded platform these days 1.8M isn't worth bothering about. > > And since you mention

Re: Python linker

2006-07-19 Thread John J. Lee
Larry Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > That said, I disagree that 3.5Mb is too much to download. It > only takes about 7 seconds on my machine (cable modem). If your > users won't wait that long, they weren't very interested in your > application. [...] For some markets (very far from a

Re: Python linker

2006-07-19 Thread John J. Lee
Sion Arrowsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Who's going to notice if your executable is a couple of M slimmer? Anybody with a modem. John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python linker

2006-07-19 Thread Larry Bates
Don't use wx, use native Windows controls that already exist on the machine. That makes the application very small. That said, I disagree that 3.5Mb is too much to download. It only takes about 7 seconds on my machine (cable modem). If your users won't wait that long, they weren't very interest

Re: Python linker

2006-07-19 Thread Ben Sizer
Sion Arrowsmith wrote: > Er, what? How are you generating your standalone executables? What > size is "acceptable"? python24.dll is only 1.8M -- surely on any > non-embedded platform these days 1.8M isn't worth bothering about. > And since you mention wx (all of another 4.8M) I'd guess we're > talk

Re: Python linker

2006-07-19 Thread Ben Sizer
Simon Brunning wrote: > So, they'll download and install the .NET framework at 23 MB, but they > won't download and install Python at 9 and half? I think the .NET framework gets thrown down via Windows Update - or at least it did for me - so that doesn't count as a 'separate download' for many pur

Re: Python linker

2006-07-18 Thread Simon Brunning
On 18 Jul 2006 08:01:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I develop shareware applications that need to be extremely slim (less > than 1 MB is preferable). > > Delphi applications easily meet this requirement and I can expect end > users to download the .NET framework (if they d

Re: Python linker

2006-07-18 Thread byteschreck
I develop shareware applications that need to be extremely slim (less than 1 MB is preferable). Delphi applications easily meet this requirement and I can expect end users to download the .NET framework (if they don't already have it!). However, I cannot expect users to download 3.5 MB. For corp

Re: Python linker

2006-07-18 Thread tac-tics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I love python - I use it as a utility language to complement my C# > programming every day. However, the reason I do not use it as my > primary language is - surprise, surprise - not its lack of static type > checking, but the size of standalone executes (which embed th

Re: Python linker

2006-07-18 Thread Irmen de Jong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I love python - I use it as a utility language to complement my C# > programming every day. However, the reason I do not use it as my > primary language is - surprise, surprise - not its lack of static type > checking, but the size of standalone executes (which embed the

Re: Python linker

2006-07-18 Thread Sion Arrowsmith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I love python - I use it as a utility language to complement my C# >programming every day. However, the reason I do not use it as my >primary language is - surprise, surprise - not its lack of static type >checking, but the size of standalone executes (which embed the

Python linker

2006-07-18 Thread byteschreck
I love python - I use it as a utility language to complement my C# programming every day. However, the reason I do not use it as my primary language is - surprise, surprise - not its lack of static type checking, but the size of standalone executes (which embed the python runtime). Would it be po