In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I asked:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>ahlongxp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> .
> .
> .
>>I'm a Chinese.
>>Language/English is really a big problem for Chinese programmers.
>>If python can be writ
I am not a native English speaker. But I totally do not support PEP
3131. If a program is written in English and commented by other
language, I am read it. But if a program is written in other language,
it will be full unreadable by me even it is commented by English. I
think language is just a too
--- MRAB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Instead of having many different Pythons for many
> different languages,
> how about one for a language like Esperanto?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto
>
> That could be the language for the standard
> libraries instead of
> English.
>
English b
On Jun 5, 12:03 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MRAB wrote:
> > Instead of having many different Pythons for many different languages,
> > how about one for a language like Esperanto?
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto
>
> > That could be t
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MRAB wrote:
> Instead of having many different Pythons for many different languages,
> how about one for a language like Esperanto?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto
>
> That could be the language for the standard libraries instead of
> English.
Esperanto remind
> On Behalf Of Steve Howell
> Asia:
>
>Python should be *completely* internationalized for
> Mandarin, Japanese, and possibly Hindi and Korean.
> Not just identifiers. I'm talking the entire language,
> keywords and all.
I am a Japanese-to-English translator in my day job, and live in Jap
On Jun 4, 6:12 pm, Ross Ridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Ross Ridge wrote:
> > Translating keywords and standard identifiers into Chinese could make
> > learning Python even more difficult. It would probably make things
> > easier for new programmers, but I don't know if serious programmers woul
--- Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Steve Howell wrote:
> > I don't predict a huge upswing in Slavic-writing
> > Python programmers after PEP 3131, even among
> > children.
>
I slightly misspoke here. I meant to say children and
young adults, i.e. students up to early university
age
Steve Howell wrote:
> I don't predict a huge upswing in Slavic-writing
> Python programmers after PEP 3131, even among
> children.
Are you predicting a sharp upswing in Chinese-writing (or any language)
Python programmers after PEP 3131 among children? If so, why certain
groups of children and
olive schreef:
> Lol!
>
> What is a "sharp hair boss" ?
Pointy-haired boss, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy_Haired_Boss
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Ross Ridge wrote:
> Translating keywords and standard identifiers into Chinese could make
> learning Python even more difficult. It would probably make things
> easier for new programmers, but I don't know if serious programmers would
> actually prefer programming using Chinese keywords. It would
--- olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is a "sharp hair boss" ?
>
"Sharp hair boss" came out from my translation into
French of "pointy-haired boss."
Wikipedia tells me I should have said "Boss a tête de
pioche."
Here are some links, if you've never had the pleasure
of reading Dilbert:
Ross Ridge wrote:
> Translating keywords and standard identifiers into Chinese could make
> learning Python even more difficult. It would probably make things
> easier for new programmers, but I don't know if serious programmers would
> actually prefer programming using Chinese keywords. It would
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
ahlongxp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.
.
.
>I'm a Chinese.
>Language/English is really a big problem for Chinese programmers.
>If python can be written in Chinese, it may become the most popul
Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm wondering if all the English keywords in Python
>would present too high a barrier for most Chinese
>people--def, if, while, for, sys, os, etc. So you
>might need to go even further than simply allowing
>identifiers to be written in Simplified-Chinese.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ross Ridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>about Japan:
>>major linguistic influences: Chinese, English,
>>Dutch
>
>English and Dutch are minor linguistic influences.
.
.
On Jun 4, 11:54 am, Ross Ridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >about Japan:
> >major linguistic influences: Chinese, English,
> >Dutch
>
> English and Dutch are minor linguistic influences.
>
Obviously. But language evolves.
>
> >Asia:
>
> > Python
Lol!
What is a "sharp hair boss" ?
My boss does not look like a punk !
But he does want me to dance "la Java".
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Méta-MCI je napisao/la:
> > Et le klingon ?
> >
> > Please, don't forget klingons
> > SVP, n'oubliez pas les klingons
> >
> > ;o)
>
> je pense que le klingon utilise les mems lettres
> comme l'anglais
>
Oui, mais en tous case, dans l'Enterprise on doit
utilise
Méta-MCI je napisao/la:
> Et le klingon ?
>
> Please, don't forget klingons
> SVP, n'oubliez pas les klingons
>
> ;o)
je pense que le klingon utilise les mems lettres comme l'anglais
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Et le klingon ?
Please, don't forget klingons
SVP, n'oubliez pas les klingons
;o)
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> Agreed, but FWIW, if you compared Slavic-writing
> people to Chinese-writing people, I would think that a
> higher percentage of Slavic-writing people would be
> bilingual in terms of their ability to write code in
> non-Slavic alphabets, due to various
> cultural/geographical factors.
of course
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> what about slavic languages?
> in croatian you have five accented letters plus
> three letters for
> digrahps. russian, bulgarian, serbian, macedonian,
> ukranian etc. use
> cyrilic alphabet (lets not forget that russia isn't
> that small -
> around 150 million peopl
Steve Howell je napisao/la:
> some European alphabets:
>
>Spanish -- accented, includes digraphs ch and ll
>German -- accented
>French -- accented
>Italian -- accented, no J/K/W/X/Y
>
what about slavic languages?
in croatian you have five accented letters plus three letters for
di
--- Ross Ridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Asia:
> >
> > Python should be *completely* internationalized
> for
> >Mandarin, Japanese, and possibly Hindi and Korean.
> >Not just identifiers. I'm talking the entire
> >language, keywords and all.
>
>
> btw. Mandarin is a spoken dialect Chines
Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>about Japan:
>major linguistic influences: Chinese, English,
>Dutch
English and Dutch are minor linguistic influences.
>kanji = Chinese characters
>hiragana and katakana -- syllabic scripts
>Latin alphabet often used in modern Japanese (se
The never-ending debate about PEP 3131 got me thinking
about natural languages with respect to Python, and I
have a bunch of mostly simple observations (some
factual, some anecdotal). I present these mostly as
food for thought, but I do make my own
continent-by-continent recommendations at the bot
Sybren Stuvel ,
> I'd suggest learning English. The programming language is based on
> English anyway.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
To be even more exact, it would help to learn or even b
Sybren Stuvel enlightened us with:
> I'd suggest learning English. The programming language is based on
> English anyway. Besides, everybody in The Netherlands learns English
> at school.
Sorry, not a really helpful answer. There is plenty of docs in Dutch,
which is of no surprise since Python's d
Dragonfly enlightened us with:
> Do you have a python lesson book in dutch version on your site?
I'd suggest learning English. The programming language is based on
English anyway. Besides, everybody in The Netherlands learns English
at school.
Sybren
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"Dragonfly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> hi,
> Do you have a python lesson book in dutch version on your site?
Did you try to look? Either by using the search bar at the top of each
page or going to the documentation page http://www.python.org/doc/ where
there
hi,
Do you have a python lesson book in dutch version on your site?
greetz erik =)
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