Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-24 Thread Victor Kryukov
Hello list, thanks a lot to everybody for their suggestions. We're yet to make our final decision, and the information you've provided is really helpful. Best, Victor. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-22 Thread Michael Ströder
John Nagle wrote: > Sure they do. I have a complex web site, "http://www.downside.com";, > that's implemented with Perl, Apache, and MySQL. It automatically reads > SEC > filings and parses them to produce financial analyses. It's been > running for seven years, and hasn't been modified in f

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-21 Thread ddddddddd dddddddddddddd
[Bruno Desthuilliers]> John, I'm really getting tired of your systemic and totally > unconstructive criticism. If *you* are not happy with Python, by all > means use another language. You are saying bad things about my darling! Python is my baby! Shame on you John Nagle, if you do it again I'll r

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-21 Thread João Santos
Please have a look at Plone and Zope. "During the month of January 2006, we've had approx. 167 million hits" plone.org On 2007-05-16 23:04:17 +0200, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hello list, > > our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of > dynamic cont

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-21 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
John Nagle a écrit : (snip) >YouTube's home page is PHP. Try "www.youtube.com/index.php". > That works, while the obvious alternatives don't. > If you look at the page HTML, you'll see things like > >onclick="_hbLink('LogIn','UtilityLinks');">Log In > > So there's definitely PHP

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-21 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Ivan Tikhonov a écrit : > Use php. I am lead programmer/maintainer of big website with a lot of > interactive stuff in user's backoffice and with a lot of interraction > to our non-web apps. > > PHP is a crap, but programming for web in python is a pain in the ass. Strange enough, MVHO on this is

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-21 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On May 16, 4:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of > dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. See #3 below > Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid > stabil

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-21 Thread Ivan Tikhonov
Use php. I am lead programmer/maintainer of big website with a lot of interactive stuff in user's backoffice and with a lot of interraction to our non-web apps. PHP is a crap, but programming for web in python is a pain in the ass. And php programmers are cheaper. Especialy avoid mod_python. IMHO

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-20 Thread Rico
On May 16, 2:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of > dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. > > Today, as we get better idea of what we need, we're going to re-write > everything f

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-20 Thread Michael Bayer
On May 16, 5:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid > stability. As one of our team-members puts it, "We want to use tools > that are stable, has many developer-years and thousands of user-years > behind them, and that we

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-20 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
John Nagle a écrit : > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > >> John Nagle a écrit : >> >>> Victor Kryukov wrote: >>> Hello list, our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. >>> >>> >>> ... >>> Our

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Josiah Carlson
John Nagle wrote: >Many of the basic libraries for web related functions do have > problems. Even standard modules like "urllib" and "SSL" are buggy, > and have been for years. Outside the standard modules, it gets > worse, especially for ones with C components. Version incompatibility > for

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Jorge Godoy
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >As a direct result of this, neither the Linux distro builders like > Red Hat nor major hosting providers provide Python environments that > just work. That's reality. Try SuSE, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu... They "just work". I've never had any problem installi

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread John Nagle
John Nagle wrote: >YouTube's home page is PHP. Try "www.youtube.com/index.php". > That works, while the obvious alternatives don't. > If you look at the page HTML, you'll see things like > >onclick="_hbLink('LogIn','UtilityLinks');">Log In > > So there's definitely PHP inside Yo

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Michele Simionato
On May 16, 11:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid > stability. As one of our team-members puts it, "We want to use tools > that are stable, has many developer-years and thousands of user-years > behind them, and that w

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread John Nagle
Alex Martelli wrote: > Jarek Zgoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Daniel Nogradi napisa?(a): >> >> For example, it HAS been published elsewhere that YouTube uses lighttpd, not Apache: . >>> >>>How do you explain these, then: >>> >>>h

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Nogradi
> > >> For example, it HAS been published elsewhere that YouTube uses lighttpd, > > >> not Apache: . > > > > > > How do you explain these, then: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/results.xxx > > > http://www.youtube.com/results.php > > > http:/

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread John Nagle
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > John Nagle a écrit : > >> Victor Kryukov wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> >>> our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of >>> dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. >> >> ... >> >>> Our main requirement for tools we're going t

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Nogradi
> > >> For example, it HAS been published elsewhere that YouTube uses lighttpd, > > >> not Apache: . > > > > > > How do you explain these, then: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/results.xxx > > > http://www.youtube.com/results.php > > > http:/

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Alex Martelli
Jarek Zgoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Nogradi napisa?(a): > > >> For example, it HAS been published elsewhere that YouTube uses lighttpd, > >> not Apache: . > > > > How do you explain these, then: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/res

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Istvan Albert a écrit : > On May 16, 5:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid >> stability. As one of our team-members puts it, "We want to use tools >> that are stable, has many developer-years and thousands of user-ye

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
John Nagle a écrit : > Victor Kryukov wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of >> dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. > ... >> Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid >> stability. As one of our

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Daniel Nogradi napisał(a): >> For example, it HAS been published elsewhere that YouTube uses lighttpd, >> not Apache: . > > How do you explain these, then: > > http://www.youtube.com/results.xxx > http://www.youtube.com/results.php > http://w

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Nogradi
> For example, it HAS been published elsewhere that YouTube uses lighttpd, > not Apache: . How do you explain these, then: http://www.youtube.com/results.xxx http://www.youtube.com/results.php http://www.youtube.com/results.py Just wondering,

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-17 Thread Alex Martelli
Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > And although http://www.python.org/about/quotes/ lists many big names > and wonderful examples, be want more details. E.g. our understanding > is that Google uses python mostly for internal web-sites, and > performance is far from perfect their. Yo

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-17 Thread John Nagle
Jarek Zgoda wrote: > Victor Kryukov napisał(a): > > >>Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid >>stability. As one of our team-members puts it, "We want to use tools >>that are stable, has many developer-years and thousands of user-years >>behind them, and that we shouldn't

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-17 Thread Chris Cioffi
I think the first question I would have is what kind of dynamic content are you talking about? Is this a web app kind of thing, or just a content pushing site? While Django might not be v1.0 yet, it seems very solid and stable, and perfect for quickly building powerful content based dynamic sites

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-17 Thread Paul Boddie
John Nagle wrote: > Victor Kryukov wrote: > > > > Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid > > stability. As one of our team-members puts it, "We want to use tools > > that are stable, has many developer-years and thousands of user-years > > behind them, and that we shouldn't

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-17 Thread Steve Holden
Victor Kryukov wrote: > Hello list, > > our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of > dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. > And has stayed around to dog the developers, as so many quick fixes do ... > Today, as we get better idea of what we need,

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-17 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Victor Kryukov napisał(a): > Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid > stability. As one of our team-members puts it, "We want to use tools > that are stable, has many developer-years and thousands of user-years > behind them, and that we shouldn't worry about their _versio

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-17 Thread Istvan Albert
On May 16, 5:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid > stability. As one of our team-members puts it, "We want to use tools > that are stable, has many developer-years and thousands of user-years > behind them, and that we

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-16 Thread Luis M . González
On May 16, 6:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of > dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. > > Today, as we get better idea of what we need, we're going to re-write > everything f

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-16 Thread Luis M . González
On May 16, 6:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of > dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. > > Today, as we get better idea of what we need, we're going to re-write > everything f

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-16 Thread Luis M . González
On May 16, 6:04 pm, Victor Kryukov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of > dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. > > Today, as we get better idea of what we need, we're going to re-write > everything f

Re: Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-16 Thread John Nagle
Victor Kryukov wrote: > Hello list, > > our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of > dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. ... > Our main requirement for tools we're going to use is rock-solid > stability. As one of our team-members puts it, "We want

Python Web Programming - looking for examples of solid high-traffic sites

2007-05-16 Thread Victor Kryukov
Hello list, our team is going to rewrite our existing web-site, which has a lot of dynamic content and was quickly prototyped some time ago. Today, as we get better idea of what we need, we're going to re-write everything from scratch. Python is an obvious candidate for our team: everybody knows