Chris Angelico writes:
>>> Bipartisan-US-Bill-Moves-to-Criminalize-BDS-Support-20170720-0001.html
>> Heh, at first I read that as a bill to criminalise BSD support :-)
> I spluttered my drink on reading that. Good job Steven!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDS_C
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 06:06 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Hmm. Aside from messing around with exec, is there any way to have a
> local and a global with the same name, and use the global?
Use globals['name'].
There's no way to do it with regular name look ups. This doesn't work:
spam = 'outside'
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:36 AM, eryk sun wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> I'm not actually sure what happens if you use a global declaration at
>> top level. Is it ignored? Is it an error?
>
> It isn't ignored, but it shouldn't make a difference since normall
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 2017-07-25 09:28, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> It actually does the equivalent of:
>>
>> finally:
>> e = None
>
> I wonder why it would bother to load None... (as someone not very
> familiar with Python at the bytecode level)
If I may ha
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> I'm not actually sure what happens if you use a global declaration at
> top level. Is it ignored? Is it an error?
It isn't ignored, but it shouldn't make a difference since normally at
module level locals and globals are the same. It make
On 2017-07-25 09:28, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> +1
>> You can call it bug or bug-promoted-to-feature :D
>>
>> I call it surprising because I dont know of any other case in python where
>> a delete is user-detectable
>> ie python's delete of objec
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> I think those are not the only two options (the “except clause has its
> own scope” behaviour is an option that could have been chosen, for
> example).
>
> At this point the behaviour and motivation are clear, having been
> revealed; I disagree
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:47:17 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>> Bipartisan-US-Bill-Moves-to-Criminalize-BDS-Support-20170720-0001.html
>
>
> Heh, at first I read that as a bill to criminalise BSD support :-)
>
I spluttered my drink o
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:47:17 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
[...]
> Bipartisan-US-Bill-Moves-to-Criminalize-BDS-Support-20170720-0001.html
Heh, at first I read that as a bill to criminalise BSD support :-)
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Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:02:48 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > I suppose my objection is rooted in the fact this behaviour is
> > implicit; my code has not issued a ‘del’ statement, and so I don't
> > expect one; yet it occurs implicitly. This violates the Zen of
> > Python
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:02:48 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Ben Finney writes:
>
>> Having to make another name for the same object, merely to avoid some
>> surprising behaviour, is IMO un-Pythonic.
>
> I suppose my objection is rooted in the fact this behaviour is implicit;
> my code has not issue
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 00:01:11 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 07/24/2017 11:47 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>> Interesting to see this adjacent to news that non-participation is
>> about to be criminalized double of [snip]
>
> Rustom, All,
>
> This is a Python mailing list. Please keep the topics m
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> +1
> You can call it bug or bug-promoted-to-feature :D
>
> I call it surprising because I dont know of any other case in python where
> a delete is user-detectable
> ie python's delete of objects always works quietly behind the scenes whereas
>
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:48:56 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 7:12:44 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney quoted
> Thomas Jefferson's :
>
>> The cost of education is trivial compared to the cost of ignorance.
>
>
> An interesting standard of “trivial”… given…
You're reading the qu
Ben Finney writes:
> Having to make another name for the same object, merely to avoid some
> surprising behaviour, is IMO un-Pythonic.
I suppose my objection is rooted in the fact this behaviour is implicit;
my code has not issued a ‘del’ statement, and so I don't expect one; yet
it occurs impli
Ben Finney schrieb am 25.07.2017 um 08:34:
> Ethan Furman writes:
>
>> Something like:
>>
>> try:
>>
>> except ZeroDivisionError as dead_exc:
>> exc = dead_exc
>>
>>
>> print(text_template.format(exc=exc)
>
> That strikes me as busy-work; the
On 07/24/2017 11:47 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Interesting to see this adjacent to news that non-participation is about
to be criminalized double of [snip]
Rustom, All,
This is a Python mailing list. Please keep the topics marginally on-topic.
Thanks.
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On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 12:04:45 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> Ethan Furman writes:
>
> > Something like:
> >
> > try:
> >
> > except ZeroDivisionError as dead_exc:
> > exc = dead_exc
> >
> >
> > print(text_template.format(exc=exc)
>
Ethan Furman writes:
> Something like:
>
> try:
>
> except ZeroDivisionError as dead_exc:
> exc = dead_exc
>
>
> print(text_template.format(exc=exc)
That strikes me as busy-work; the name in the ‘except’ clause already
*has* the object, and
Ben Finney writes:
> How can I stop Python from deleting a name binding, when that name is
> used for binding the exception that is caught?
Use sys.exc_info()
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On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 7:12:44 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney quoted Thomas
Jefferson's :
> The cost of education is trivial compared to the cost of ignorance.
An interesting standard of “trivial”… given…
UK has risen to more than £100 billion for the first time
https://www.theguardian.com/mon
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:41 am, Ben Finney wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> How can I stop Python from deleting a name binding, when that name is
> used for binding the exception that is caught? When did this change in
> behaviour come into Python?
>
>
> I am writing code to run on both Python 2 and Pytho
On 07/24/2017 06:41 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
How can I stop Python from deleting a name binding, when that name is
used for binding the exception that is caught? When did this change in
behaviour come into Python?
I am writing code to run on both Python 2 and Python 3::
exc = None
try:
Howdy all,
How can I stop Python from deleting a name binding, when that name is
used for binding the exception that is caught? When did this change in
behaviour come into Python?
I am writing code to run on both Python 2 and Python 3::
exc = None
try:
1/0
text_template
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