Hi!
Finally, here are the results:
http://blog.frite-camembert.net/python-survey-2014.html
Here is the auto-generated Google Forms recap:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DqxkNi4GvyTCu54usSdE1DjW29zw1tc52iMeH3z4heg/viewanalytics
(more elegant than my matplotlib graphs - I'd have no future as a
desi
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
[...]
> Barry, Petr, any of the other folks working on distro level C extension
> ports, perhaps one of you would be willing to consider an update to the C
> extension porting guide to be more in line with Brett's latest version of
> the Python
On 13 Dec 2014 05:19, "Petr Viktorin" wrote:
>
> Also keep in mind that not all Python libraries are on PyPI.
> For non-Python projects with Python bindings (think video players,
> OpenCV, systemd, Samba), distribution via PyPI doesn't make much
> sense. And since the Python bindings are usually s
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2014-12-10, Bruno Cauet wrote:
>
>> Nathaniel, I'm not sure about that: even if the code is 2- and 3-compatible
>> you'll pick one runtime.
>
> Why do you say that?
>
> I have both installed. I use both. Sometimes it depends on which
>
On 2014-12-10, Bruno Cauet wrote:
> Nathaniel, I'm not sure about that: even if the code is 2- and 3-compatible
> you'll pick one runtime.
Why do you say that?
I have both installed. I use both. Sometimes it depends on which
OS/distro I'm running, sometimes other reasons prevail.
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Steven D'Aprano :
> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
>> At work, Python 2.3 is the version in one environment
>
> Good grief! What's the OS you are using for that?
RHEL 4.
Marko
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Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> At work, Python 2.3 is the version in one environment
Good grief! What's the OS you are using for that?
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"Giampaolo Rodola'" :
> What I'm saying is that for a very long time a considerable number of
> libraries haven't been ported to python 3
Ok, that's at least half the fault of the library developers.
> Names such as Twisted, gevent, eventlet, python-daemon and paramiko
> means that literally hun
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Ben Finney
wrote:
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> "Giampaolo Rodola'" writes:
>
> > I still think the only *real* obstacle remains the lack of important
> > packages such as twisted, gevent and pika which haven't been ported
> > yet.
>
> What disqualifies other obstacles from being “*real*
On Dec 12, 2014, at 08:07 PM, Petr Viktorin wrote:
>If anyone is wondering why their favorite Linux distribution is stuck with
>Python 2 – well, I can only speak for Fedora, but nowadays most of what's
>left are CPython bindings. No pylint --py3k or 2to3 will help there...
It's true that some of
On 12/11/2014 09:48 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> A possible reason: one is developing an app expected to be released
> fall 2015 after the 3.5 release and the app depends on something new
> in 3.5. I must admit though that I cannot think of any such thing now
> for 3.5. For 3.3 there was the new unic
Also keep in mind that not all Python libraries are on PyPI.
For non-Python projects with Python bindings (think video players,
OpenCV, systemd, Samba), distribution via PyPI doesn't make much
sense. And since the Python bindings are usually second-class
citizens, the porting doesn't have a high pr
So, I'm more than aware of how to write Python 2/3 compatible code. I've
ported 10-20 libraries to Python 3 and write Python 2/3 compatible code at
work. I'm also aware of how much writing 2/3 compatible code makes me hate
Python as a language. It'll be a happy day when one of the two languages
die
On 12/10/2014 5:04 PM, Bruno Cauet wrote:
I hesitated a while before deciding not to include it! Apart from python
core development what would be the reasons to work mostly on this version ?
where 'This version' == 3.5. A possible reason: one is developing an
app expected to be released fall
On Dec 11, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>I disagree. I know there's a huge focus on The Big Libraries (and wholesale
>migration is all but impossible without them), but the long tail of
>libraries is still incredibly important.
It is, but I think it's increasingly the case that packages
2014-12-11 15:47 GMT+01:00 Giampaolo Rodola' :
> I still think the only *real* obstacle remains the lack of important
> packages such as twisted, gevent and pika which haven't been ported yet.
twisted core works on python 3, right now. Contribute to Twisted if
you want to port more code... Or star
"Giampaolo Rodola'" writes:
> I still think the only *real* obstacle remains the lack of important
> packages such as twisted, gevent and pika which haven't been ported
> yet.
What disqualifies other obstacles from being “*real* obstacles”? How do
you determine that?
> With those ones ported sw
On Thu Dec 11 2014 at 3:14:42 PM Dan Stromberg wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> > I disagree. I know there's a huge focus on The Big Libraries (and
> wholesale
> > migration is all but impossible without them), but the long tail of
> > libraries is still incredibl
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> I disagree. I know there's a huge focus on The Big Libraries (and wholesale
> migration is all but impossible without them), but the long tail of
> libraries is still incredibly important. It's like saying that migrating the
> top 10 Perl lib
I disagree. I know there's a huge focus on The Big Libraries (and wholesale
migration is all but impossible without them), but the long tail of
libraries is still incredibly important. It's like saying that migrating
the top 10 Perl libraries to Perl 6 would allow people to completely ignore
all of
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Bruno Cauet wrote:
> Hi all,
> Last year a survey was conducted on python 2 and 3 usage.
> Here is the 2014 edition, slightly updated (from 9 to 11 questions).
> It should not take you more than 1 minute to fill. I would be pleased if
> you took that time.
>
> Her
I hesitated a while before deciding not to include it! Apart from python core
development what would be the reasons to work mostly on this version ?
I'll fix the omission right ahead.
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:5
Hi all,
Last year a survey was conducted on python 2 and 3 usage.
Here is the 2014 edition, slightly updated (from 9 to 11 questions).
It should not take you more than 1 minute to fill. I would be pleased if
you took that time.
Here's the url: http://goo.gl/forms/tDTcm8UzB3
I'll publish the result
Remarks heard & form updated.
Nathaniel, I'm not sure about that: even if the code is 2- and 3-compatible
you'll pick one runtime. 2 others questions now mention writing polyglot
code.
By the way I published the survey on HN, /r/programming & /r/python:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8730156
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Bruno Cauet wrote:
> I hesitated a while before deciding not to include it! Apart from python
> core development what would be the reasons to work mostly on this version ?
> I'll fix the omission right ahead.
My main reason is that I'm running Debian Wheezy here (
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Bruno Cauet wrote:
> Here's the url: http://goo.gl/forms/tDTcm8UzB3
> I'll publish the results around the end of the year.
On "Which versions do you use?", 3.5 is not included. My primary
Python 3 build on here is a 3.5 built from trunk. :)
ChrisA
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On 10 Dec 2014 17:16, "Ian Cordasco" wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Bruno Cauet wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Last year a survey was conducted on python 2 and 3 usage.
> > Here is the 2014 edition, slightly updated (from 9 to
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>
> On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Bruno Cauet wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Last year a survey was conducted on python 2 and 3 usage.
> Here is the 2014 edition, slightly updated (from 9 to 11 questions).
> It should not take you more than 1 minute to
> On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Bruno Cauet wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Last year a survey was conducted on python 2 and 3 usage.
> Here is the 2014 edition, slightly updated (from 9 to 11 questions).
> It should not take you more than 1 minute to fill. I would be pleased if you
> took that time.
>
>
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