Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Saketh wrote: On Nov 4, 5:28 pm, Alan Franzoni My small effort to create a place for discussing Python seems to have sparked a larger discussion than I had anticipated. My intent in creating Pyfora is not to splinter the community or encroach upon comp.lang.python users, but to create an alte

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Imagine if no one ever created anything new out of fear of "fragmenting the community". Should we hurl the same accusation at Guido for fragmenting the programmer community and creating Python, when perfectly fine languages like Perl, Lisp & Smalltalk already existed? Creating new things is a par

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

On Nov 4, 5:28 pm, Alan Franzoni wrote: > On 11/2/09 3:44 PM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > > > Being from germany, I can say that we *have* this fragmentation, and > > frankly: I don't like it. I prefer my communication via NNTP/ML, and not > > with those visually rather noisy and IMHO suboptimal for

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > Yes, this is about the right kind of response I think everybody > deserves who puts energy/enthusiasm/effort/time into putting together > a python-related forum. So what's the right kind of response deserved by those who put energy/ enthusiasm/effort/time into sustainin

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Alan Franzoni writes: > That's right... forums, although more "accessible" to all the people > who can't/doesn't want to use specific email or nntp clients, are > quite slow to use. > > But I think Ubuntu forums support threads and are kind of "channeled" > between ML and webinterface... somethin

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

In article , Alan Franzoni wrote: > On 11/2/09 3:44 PM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > > Being from germany, I can say that we *have* this fragmentation, and > > frankly: I don't like it. I prefer my communication via NNTP/ML, and not > > with those visually rather noisy and IMHO suboptimal forums. E

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

On 11/2/09 3:44 PM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Being from germany, I can say that we *have* this fragmentation, and > frankly: I don't like it. I prefer my communication via NNTP/ML, and not > with those visually rather noisy and IMHO suboptimal forums. E.g. it That's right... forums, although more

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Valentina Boycheva wrote: I was following this discussion first with curiosity and then with increasing disbelief. > So stop following it. Really. As a scientist and a programmer, I always considered myself belonging to a group of people who are broad-minded and task-oriented. Ditto. I re

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

>>Daniel Fetchinson writes: > >Probably this thread is going by far too far :) >Ben Finney [ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au] writes: > Agreed. I was following this discussion first with curiosity and then with increasing disbelief. As a scientist and a programmer, I always considered myself belonging

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Daniel Fetchinson wrote: I was referring to this comment by Ben: "Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community." This IMHO is hostile, because it presupposes that the mere goal of the OP is fragmenting the community It presupposes nothing of any goal. It describes a predict

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

> My personal preference would be a link in each sub-paragraph in the official > documentation to a wiki page devoted to that specific aspect of the Python > language. A place were users could augment the documentation by providing > sample code and by expanding out the documentation for those of u

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

>>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I am proud to announce the release of Pyfora (http://pyfora.org), an >>> online community of Python enthusiasts to supplement comp.lang.python >>> and #python. While the site is small right now, please feel free to >>> register and post any questions or tips you may have. >

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

I was referring to this comment by Ben: "Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community." This IMHO is hostile, because it presupposes that the mere goal of the OP is fragmenting the community >>> >>>It presupposes nothing of any goal. It describes a predi

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:11:59 -0800, Lorenzo Gatti wrote: > On Nov 1, 8:06 am, Saketh wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am proud to announce the release of Pyfora (http://pyfora.org), an >> online community of Python enthusiasts to supplement comp.lang.python >> and #python. While the site is small r

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Daniel Fetchinson writes: > Probably this thread is going by far too far :) Agreed. -- \德不孤、必有鄰。 (The virtuous are not abandoned, they shall | `\ surely have neighbours.) —孔夫子 Confucius, 551 BCE – 479 BCE | _o__) |

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

On Nov 3, 11:37 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:11:59 -0800, Lorenzo Gatti wrote: [...] > Are you saying that now that comp.lang.python and stackoverflow exists, > there no more room in the world for any more Python forums? > > I think that's terrible. Although there is a high

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:58:30 -, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: If yes, we are almost there! In our example the request of A only makes sense if B is making an effort to fragment the community, in other words, assuming that A tries to make a meaningful request, A is assuming that B is making an

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Daniel Fetchinson wrote: I was referring to this comment by Ben: "Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community." This IMHO is hostile, because it presupposes that the mere goal of the OP is fragmenting the community It presupposes nothing of any goal. It describes a predict

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

>> Since when is the mere suggestion that fragmentation will occur and if >> that's a desirable consequence is hostile? The OP is not bound to it, >> and I also don't see the tone used by the two immediate answerers being >> hostile. Paul might have been terse - but hostility looks different IMHO.

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

>> I was referring to this comment by Ben: >> >> "Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community." >> >> This IMHO is hostile, because it presupposes that the mere goal of the >> OP is fragmenting the community > > It presupposes nothing of any goal. It describes a predictable resu

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Lorenzo Gatti wrote: > On Nov 1, 8:06 am, Saketh wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am proud to announce the release of Pyfora (http://pyfora.org), an >> online community of Python enthusiasts to supplement comp.lang.python >> and #python. While the site is small right now, please feel free to >> regi

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Daniel Fetchinson writes: > I was referring to this comment by Ben: > > "Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community." > > This IMHO is hostile, because it presupposes that the mere goal of the > OP is fragmenting the community It presupposes nothing of any goal. It describes

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

On 11/3/09, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Daniel Fetchinson schrieb: >> If you have any suggestions, let me know -- this is a community >> effort! > Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community. When a community grows and consequently its needs also grow, how do >>>

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Kee Nethery wrote: > I just noticed the tag line "a place for Python". Looked it up online > (http://pyfora.org/) and it will be interesting to see if it can fill > the void that I experience (no centralized place to post and view user > submitted sample code) in the existing Python community. The

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

On Nov 1, 8:06 am, Saketh wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am proud to announce the release of Pyfora (http://pyfora.org), an > online community of Python enthusiasts to supplement comp.lang.python > and #python. While the site is small right now, please feel free to > register and post any questions o

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Daniel Fetchinson schrieb: If you have any suggestions, let me know -- this is a community effort! Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community. When a community grows and consequently its needs also grow, how do you differentiate "natural growth" from "fragmenting the commun

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Kee Nethery writes: > I just noticed the tag line "a place for Python". Looked it up online > (http://pyfora.org/ ) and it will be interesting to see if it can fill > the void that I experience (no centralized place to post and view > user submitted sample code) in the existing Python community.

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

"Diez B. Roggisch" wrote: > Kee Nethery wrote: >> My personal preference would be a link in each sub-paragraph in the >> official documentation to a wiki page devoted to that specific aspect >> of the Python language. A place were users could augment the >> documentation by providing sample code

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

If you have any suggestions, let me know -- this is a community effort! >>> >>> Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community. >> >> When a community grows and consequently its needs also grow, how do >> you differentiate "natural growth" from "fragmenting the community"

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Kee Nethery wrote: > I just noticed the tag line "a place for Python". Looked it up online > (http://pyfora.org/ ) and it will be interesting to see if it can fill the > void that I experience (no centralized place to post and view user > submitted sample code) in the existing Python community. A

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

I just noticed the tag line "a place for Python". Looked it up online (http://pyfora.org/ ) and it will be interesting to see if it can fill the void that I experience (no centralized place to post and view user submitted sample code) in the existing Python community. As for user community f

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >>> If you have any suggestions, let me know -- this is a community >>> effort! >> >> Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community. > > When a community grows and consequently its needs also grow, how do > you differentiate "natural growth" from "fragme

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

>> If you have any suggestions, let me know -- this is a community >> effort! > > Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community. When a community grows and consequently its needs also grow, how do you differentiate "natural growth" from "fragmenting the community"? Same question

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Saketh writes: > If you have any suggestions, let me know -- this is a community > effort! Suggestion: Please don't make efforts to fragment the community. Rather, please direct seekers to the existing forums (the IRC channel, the Usenet groups and mailing lists) rather than setting up new wall

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Saketh wrote: > If you have any suggestions, let me know -- this is a community > effort! I'd like to suggest Pyaspora as a more apropos name ;) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

I think it's a really good idea :) My accountname is "TotempaaltJ" On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Saketh writes: > > I am proud to announce the release of Pyfora (http://pyfora.org), an > > online community of Python enthusiasts to supplement co

Re: Pyfora, a place for python

Saketh writes: > I am proud to announce the release of Pyfora (http://pyfora.org), an > online community of Python enthusiasts to supplement comp.lang.python > and #python. And the reason to want to further fragment Python discussion is exactly what? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py