Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-09 Thread Tom Anderson
On Mon, 6 Nov 2005, it was written: > aum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, ... Whereas PyFLTK feels >> more like an average suburban 4-door sedan > > Interesting. What would Tkinter be at that car dealership? A '70s VW Beetle - it's been going for e

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-09 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Claudio Grondi wrote: > Running some of the test examples > (e.g. C:\Python24\pyfltk\test\doublebuffer.py) > I am getting an error I have never seen before: > > == > TitleOfMessageBox: > Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library > > TheMessag

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-09 Thread Claudio Grondi
> So I hope this humble message might inspire some folks to have a serious > look at pyfltk. For many situations, PyFLTK can take you to break-even > point quickly, and deliver net savings in time and effort after that. Animated by your posting I have downloaded: fltk-1.1.6-source.zip (3.073.43

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-08 Thread Jeremy Sanders
aum wrote: > But for smaller gui programs not needing the power of wx, I find I get > the job done much more quickly and effortlessly with PyFLTK. Interesting. I've found PyQt very easy to use too. I wonder how they compare (providing you can GPL your app, of course). -- Jeremy Sanders http://w

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread aum
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:10:32 -0200, Jorge Godoy wrote: > Installing things mean, usually: 8>< Distilling what you've said, it would appear the essence of your argument is "PyFLTK is less desirable because it's not popular", an argument which, despite a level of pragmatic truth, does contain more

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread Bugs
Roger Binns wrote: > > It is possible to make the wxPython smaller by having more DLLs each with > fewer widgets in it. That way you will only suck in the ones you use. > I find this VERY interesting Roger, I've been contemplating making such a request to the maintainer of wxPython (when he ge

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread Jorge Godoy
aum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I'm saying is that there are many basic projects being written for > these toolkits, whose functionality could be completely supported by > PyFLTK. When only a smaller set of widgets is needed, there's a stronger > case for using lighter widget libraries - es

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread aum
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:25:49 +0100, egbert wrote: > PyFLTK is not a debian package - yet. > Is nobody interested, or is there a more specific reason ? AFAIK, the maintainer feels it's still at release-candidate stage. When he's happy with it, I'm sure he could be persuaded to make arrangements t

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread egbert
PyFLTK is not a debian package - yet. Is nobody interested, or is there a more specific reason ? -- Egbert Bouwman - Keizersgracht 197 II - 1016 DS Amsterdam - 020 6257991 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread aum
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:23:03 -0800, Roger Binns wrote: >> To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, with fuzzy dice hanging >> from the mirror, fridge and microwave in the back, and DVD consoles on >> every seat, towing a campervan - absolute power and luxury, giving 8mpg >> if you're lucky. >

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Roger Binns
"aum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, with fuzzy dice hanging > from the mirror, fridge and microwave in the back, and DVD consoles on > every seat, towing a campervan - absolute power and luxury, giving 8mpg > if you're l

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Bugs
Hi Peter, I just used the setup.py that comes in the singlefile/gui sample. However, py2exe does still also require the msvcr71.dll runtime as well, which is 340kb. Here it is, it's a bit lengthy: # If run without args, build executables, in quiet mode. if len(sys.argv) == 1: sys.argv.appe

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Peter Hansen
Bugs wrote: > Peter Hansen wrote: >> The wxPython program below, py2exe'd on my machine (1.6GHz Pentium M), >> comes to only 12MB (2-3MB of which is Python itself), and takes 1-2 >> seconds to load (actually less than one second after the first >> invocation following a fresh reboot). > > And e

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Steve Holden
aum wrote: > On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 16:31:54 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > > >>aum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, ... >>>Whereas PyFLTK feels more like an average suburban 4-door sedan >> >>Interesting. What would Tkinter be at that car dealership? Wha

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Bugs
Peter Hansen wrote: > > The wxPython program below, py2exe'd on my machine (1.6GHz Pentium M), > comes to only 12MB (2-3MB of which is Python itself), and takes 1-2 > seconds to load (actually less than one second after the first > invocation following a fresh reboot). > And even 12MB seems h

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Peter Hansen
aum wrote: > To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, with fuzzy dice hanging > from the mirror, fridge and microwave in the back, and DVD consoles on > every seat, towing a campervan - absolute power and luxury, giving 8mpg > if you're lucky. > > wxPython has the cost of a massive disk and m

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread aum
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 16:31:54 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > aum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, ... >> Whereas PyFLTK feels more like an average suburban 4-door sedan > > Interesting. What would Tkinter be at that car dealership? What > about PyGTK? Tki

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Paul Rubin
aum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, ... > Whereas PyFLTK feels more like an average suburban 4-door sedan Interesting. What would Tkinter be at that car dealership? What about PyGTK? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread aum
Hi all, I've been doing a fair bit of python gui programming on and off, jumping between different widget sets along the way, from anygui, to pythoncard, to tkinter/PMW, then to wxPython/wxGlade, and have now settled on a python gui API that seems to get barely a mention - PyFLTK. PyFLTK (http://