I strongly recommend trying to come up with your own projects. Just
pick small things that reflect something you actually want to do: maybe
make a simple board game, or a few scripts to help you keep all your
files organized, etc. Generally speaking I think it's easier to teach
yourself a languag
"Dennis Lee Bieber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:25:35 +0200, Jarek Zgoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
|
| >
| > At the end of day we will be these who count bodies. ;)
|
| o/~ Listen children, to a story
| that was written long a
BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> Stand and fight, Python brothers. Fear not, the Ruby horde!
>
> From this day to the ending of the world,
> But we in it shall be remember'd;
> We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
> For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
> Shall
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
crystalattice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The best book I've found for "teaching" you the language is from Deitel
>and Deitel: Python, How to Program. It's outdated in that is uses
>Python 2.2 but the vast majority of concepts still apply; it does
>mention when c
BartlebyScrivener a écrit :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>>>The Ruby crowd says you guys are no where
>>> near as friendly as them!
>
>
> Slander! Defamation!
>
I'd rather say cluelessness and jealousy !-)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> thanks very much for all the comments, links to articles and other
> help.The Ruby crowd says you guys are no where near as friendly as
> them!
Yes. Python bashing sadly appears to be the national sport amongst
Rubyists. Looks like a puberty crisis to me, and I gues
Stand and fight, Python brothers. Fear not, the Ruby horde!
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so
> The time to crush our enemies has come.
> This is the Jihad! Death to the infidels
Whoa, dude, let's not get carried away now, 'k?
Looking-over-his-shoulder-ly y'rs,
infidel
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Luis M. González napisał(a):
The Ruby crowd says you guys are no where
near as friendly as them!
>>
>>Slander! Defamation!
>
> The time to crush our enemies has come.
> This is the Jihad! Death to the infidels
We'll kill them all, then we'll piss on flowers in their gardens. We'll
e
BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> The Ruby crowd says you guys are no where
> >> near as friendly as them!
>
> Slander! Defamation!
The time to crush our enemies has come.
This is the Jihad! Death to the infidels
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I have always liked this tutorial for beginners:
http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
Cheers,
Ted
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> The Ruby crowd says you guys are no where near as friendly as
> them! I was half expecting a nervous breakdown after writing
> my first post here.
Maybe the Ruby folks have to be friendlier to make up for their
language of choice... :*)
The python mailing list is your pretty typical technical
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> The Ruby crowd says you guys are no where
>> near as friendly as them!
Slander! Defamation!
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thanks very much for all the comments, links to articles and other
help.The Ruby crowd says you guys are no where near as friendly as
them! I was half expecting a nervous breakdown after writing my first
post here.
Cheers again
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Luis M. González wrote:
> Delaney, Timothy (Tim) wrote:
(snip)
>> "Clever" in this context generally means using a trick/hack that is
>> non-obvious (often even after you understand it). "Cleverness" often
>> leads to difficult-to-understand code, which is contrary to the "python
>> philosophy".
>>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all. I've been try to learn ruby for a few months but I'm about
> ready to give up.
Perfection is achieved only on the point of collapse. -- C.N. Parkinson
Welcome to Python , apart from the tutorials whenever time permits do
read this articles .
Why Python :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all. I've been try to learn ruby for a few months but I'm about
> ready to give up. The available books either assume a programming
> background, or are out of date. Anyway, I think python may suit me more
> due to its 'theres one way to do it' philosophy (hope the quo
> Is this kind of cleverness what is usually known as "magic"?
> I suspect that this has something to do with it, but not completely
> sure...
:-). It must be. Now Django has a "magic removal branch".
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
...
> Ideally, I'd like a whole series of projects where I'm walked through
> how to go about writing real Python. The way I look at it, nobody
> learnt to build a house just from reading about building materials!
Take a look at "Dive Into Python" from Mark Pilgrim, goo
Delaney, Timothy (Tim) wrote:
> Edmond Dantes wrote:
>
> > Of course, it's all what you really mean by "clever". To me, being
> > "clever" partly means writing code without bugs in the first place,
> > so there is nothing that needs debugging
>
> "Clever" in this context generally means us
For a tutorial try the Python Tutorial @ http://docs.python.org/tut/
For a book try "Learning Python" from O'Reilly Press
For reference try the Python library reference @
http://docs.python.org/lib/lib.html
For another good book try "Dive Into Python" @
http://diveintopython.org/
It is a book
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all. I've been try to learn ruby for a few months but I'm about
> ready to give up. The available books either assume a programming
> background, or are out of date. Anyway,
http://www.awaretek.com/book.html
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Edmond Dantes wrote:
> Of course, it's all what you really mean by "clever". To me, being
> "clever" partly means writing code without bugs in the first place,
> so there is nothing that needs debugging
"Clever" in this context generally means using a trick/hack that is
non-obvious (often
Ravi Teja wrote:
>> 'Clever is not considered a compliment in Python.' (don't know where I
>> read that...)
>
> On a similar note.
>
> "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
> Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
> definition, not sm
crystalattice wrote:
> Of course there's the O'Reilly set: Learning Python, Programming
> Python, Python in a Nutshell, etc.
Yep, Learning Python is the best to start. I haven't tried Programming
Python yet (new edition soon), and once you understand Python, Python in
a Nutshell is an excelle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all. I've been try to learn ruby for a few months but I'm about
> ready to give up. The available books either assume a programming
> background, or are out of date. Anyway, I think python may suit me more
> due to its 'theres one way to do it' philosophy (hope the quo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 'Clever is not considered a compliment in Python.' (don't know where I
> read that...)
"To describe something as clever is NOT considered a compliment in the
Python culture."--Alex Martelli, Python Cookbook 2nd Ed. pg. 230 (a
great book for learning by doing, after yo
> 'Clever is not considered a compliment in Python.' (don't know where I
> read that...)
On a similar note.
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
definition, not smart enough to debug it."
-- Br
Hi all. I've been try to learn ruby for a few months but I'm about
ready to give up. The available books either assume a programming
background, or are out of date. Anyway, I think python may suit me more
due to its 'theres one way to do it' philosophy (hope the quote is
right)! Another quote that
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