Frank Millman wrote:
> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frank Millman
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Then you can mention that, if they just want the integer portion, they
> > > can use int(3/2). I think that most people with the slightest
> > > understanding of basic arithmetic wi
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frank Millman
> wrote:
>
> > Then you can mention that, if they just want the integer portion, they
> > can use int(3/2). I think that most people with the slightest
> > understanding of basic arithmetic will relate to this without a
> > pr
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frank Millman
wrote:
> Why not think to the future, and do it like this. Instruct the reader
> to enter 'from __future__ import division'. You do not have to explain
> the details, just say that this is the way division will work in the
> future, and this statement will eve
Clodoaldo Pinto wrote:
> Duncan Smith wrote:
>> But as you use conversions to float in order to avoid integer division
>> in your code examples, it might be best to explain what's going on, even
>> if you do have to explain the relevant types.
>>
>
> I changed the comments in the first program tha
Frank Millman wrote:
>
> We know that Python is in the process of changing the division
> operator. The main reason for the change is that the current approach
> is not intuitive to a newcomer (whether experienced or not).
>
> Why not think to the future, and do it like this. Instruct the reader
>
Duncan Smith wrote:
>
> But as you use conversions to float in order to avoid integer division
> in your code examples, it might be best to explain what's going on, even
> if you do have to explain the relevant types.
>
I changed the comments in the first program that uses float() to:
# The raw_i
Clodoaldo Pinto wrote:
> James wrote:
> > On the calculator page you describe the difference between 3.0 / 2 and
> > 3 / 2, but an absolute beginner probably wouldn't know about the
> > difference between integers and floats, or even what the two terms
> > meant. If you don't know much about compu
Clodoaldo Pinto wrote:
> Duncan Smith wrote:
>
>>James wrote:
>>
>>>Perhaps use the phrase "whole number" there and mention that in
>>>programming they're called integers. Having a glossary with
>>>definitions for things like integer, float etc etc. would be good if
>>>when you talked about intege
Duncan Smith wrote:
> James wrote:
> > Perhaps use the phrase "whole number" there and mention that in
> > programming they're called integers. Having a glossary with
> > definitions for things like integer, float etc etc. would be good if
> > when you talked about integers it linked to the glossar
If you're serious about this being a real introduction for someone who
knows nothing, then you might want to start off by explaining what a
programming language is (and why there are more than one) and then
what a standard library is - perhaps explain it in terms of a large
set of tools you can use
John Salerno wrote:
> Clodoaldo Pinto wrote:
>
> > "Python is a remarkably powerful dynamic programming language that is
> > used in a wide variety of application domains. Python is often compared
> > to Tcl, Perl, Ruby, Scheme or Java. Some of its key distinguishing
> > features include:..."
>
> I
James wrote:
> Perhaps use the phrase "whole number" there and mention that in
> programming they're called integers. Having a glossary with
> definitions for things like integer, float etc etc. would be good if
> when you talked about integers it linked to the glossary. And
> similarly use "decima
Clodoaldo Pinto wrote:
> "Python is a remarkably powerful dynamic programming language that is
> used in a wide variety of application domains. Python is often compared
> to Tcl, Perl, Ruby, Scheme or Java. Some of its key distinguishing
> features include:..."
I'd be careful with that definition
Perhaps use the phrase "whole number" there and mention that in
programming they're called integers. Having a glossary with
definitions for things like integer, float etc etc. would be good if
when you talked about integers it linked to the glossary. And
similarly use "decimals" for floats? Less su
James wrote:
> On the calculator page you describe the difference between 3.0 / 2 and
> 3 / 2, but an absolute beginner probably wouldn't know about the
> difference between integers and floats, or even what the two terms
> meant. If you don't know much about computers then the fact that they
> are
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Clodoaldo Pinto a écrit :
> > bill pursell wrote:
> >
> (snip)
> >>2) In the section on installing, you begin with:
> >>"Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming
> >>language.". The complete novice sees those words and expects
> >>them to be e
Clodoaldo Pinto a écrit :
> bill pursell wrote:
>
(snip)
>>2) In the section on installing, you begin with:
>>"Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming
>>language.". The complete novice sees those words and expects
>>them to be explained, but there is no definition given
ypes would probably be surprising...
James
On 7 Apr 2006 12:45:48 -0700, Clodoaldo Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm starting a programming tutorial for absolute beginners using Python
> and I would like your opinions.
>
> http://programming-crash-course.com
>
>
malv a écrit :
> Looks pretty good, except for your difficult to read examples.
> Don't use black backrounds with green characters.
> A plain white background with black text would be a major improvement.
>
May I suggest a system like Trac-Wiki, that knows how to display Python
code with syntax-h
Looks pretty good, except for your difficult to read examples.
Don't use black backrounds with green characters.
A plain white background with black text would be a major improvement.
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Clodoaldo Pinto wrote:
> John Salerno wrote:
>> Also, is the section called "pretty printing" mistitled? Doesn't that
>> name refer to the pprint module?
>>
> I didn't think about pprint. I used pretty in the sense of "Pleasing or
> attractive in a graceful or delicate way." (dictionary)
>
> If yo
For tutorial in Windows, I think it is better to use the more
user-friendly interpreter from
http://activestate.com/store/languages/register.plex?id=ActivePython.
Advise the user to just click on the "Next" button without submitting
the optional contact information.
My $0.02
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John Salerno wrote:
>
> Also, is the section called "pretty printing" mistitled? Doesn't that
> name refer to the pprint module?
>
I didn't think about pprint. I used pretty in the sense of "Pleasing or
attractive in a graceful or delicate way." (dictionary)
If you have any suggestions for that pa
bill pursell wrote:
> 1) in the section on the interactive interpreter you have the sentence:
> "In Linux open a shell and type python (must be lower case)". It
> would be nice if the word 'python' were in a different font, or perhaps
> in quotes, or something. You're targetting the "absolute beg
bill pursell wrote:
> 1) in the section on the interactive interpreter you have the sentence:
> "In Linux open a shell and type python (must be lower case)". It
> would be nice if the word 'python' were in a different font, or perhaps
python would be good there.
> 2) In the section on installin
Clodoaldo Pinto wrote:
> I'm starting a programming tutorial for absolute beginners using Python
> and I would like your opinions.
>
> http://programming-crash-course.com
Very nicely laid out. Overall, a really nice presentation. 2 minor
points:
1) in the section on the intera
I'm starting a programming tutorial for absolute beginners using Python
and I would like your opinions.
http://programming-crash-course.com
Regards, Clodoaldo Pinto
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