Re: Personal criticisms and logical fallacies

2010-02-10 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-02-10 01:06 AM, Steven Howe wrote: Really, is this a relevant topic on a program mail list? Yes. Meta-discussions about how we discuss programming productively are also on-topic. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is mad

Re: Personal criticisms and logical fallacies

2010-02-10 Thread Ben Finney
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:38:50 +0100 > "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote: > > However, although in this particular case the Ad Hominems > > constituted logical fallacies, not all Ad Hominems are logical > > fallacies. > > Yes they are. Using the reputation of someone to prove

Re: Personal criticisms and logical fallacies

2010-02-09 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Ben Finney: "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:38:50 +0100 "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote: However, although in this particular case the Ad Hominems constituted logical fallacies, not all Ad Hominems are logical fallacies. Yes they are. Using the reputation of someone to prove o

Re: Personal criticisms and logical fallacies

2010-02-09 Thread Steven Howe
Really, is this a relevant topic on a program mail list? You guys need to get a room and start discussing angel counts on pinheads under the blankets. sph On 02/09/2010 10:51 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:38:50 +0100 "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote: However, although in th

Re: Personal criticisms and logical fallacies

2010-02-09 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:38:50 +0100 "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote: > However, although in this particular case the Ad Hominems constituted logical > fallacies, not all Ad Hominems are logical fallacies. Yes they are. Using the reputation of someone to prove or disprove their claims is a logical falla

Re: Personal criticisms and logical fallacies

2010-02-09 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Ben Finney: Steven D'Aprano writes: An ad hominem attack is not when somebody makes a criticism of you personally. It is when somebody says something along the lines of "Don't pay any attention to Alf, he doesn't know what he's talking about, he's a ". In other words, a criticism of the pe

Personal criticisms and logical fallacies (was: Modifying Class Object)

2010-02-09 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano writes: > An ad hominem attack is not when somebody makes a criticism of you > personally. It is when somebody says something along the lines of > "Don't pay any attention to Alf, he doesn't know what he's talking > about, he's a ". In other words, a criticism of the person is on