Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-02 Thread andrew cooke
Isaac Gouy wrote: [...] > I think it would be silly to dispute whether or not programs that have > import psyco; psyco.bind are Python programs. > > I'm not sure it would be equally silly to dispute whether or not > programs with type declarations have moved away from being Python > programs. i do

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-02 Thread Isaac Gouy
On Mar 2, 12:02 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Isaac Gouy wrote: > > On Mar 1, 11:24 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > >> Isaac Gouy wrote: > >>> On Mar 1, 8:10 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > As long as that gives you improvements of > 100-1000 times almost for free, I wouldn't bother too much with cha

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-02 Thread Terry Reedy
Paul Boddie wrote: On 1 Mar, 15:20, Steve Holden wrote: Kless wrote: Does anybody has seen the performance of Python 3? Respect to speed it's the last language together to Ruby 1.8, but Ruby 1.9 has a lot of better performance. :( I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-02 Thread Paul Boddie
On 1 Mar, 15:20, Steve Holden wrote: > Kless wrote: > > Does anybody has seen the performance of Python 3? > > Respect to speed it's the last language together to Ruby 1.8, but Ruby > > 1.9 has a lot of better performance. :( > > I'm not sure what you think th

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-02 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/3/1 Paul Rubin : > Steve Holden writes: >> I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has to do with Python. > > In the real world, people care about the relative speed of programs. Yes, and they care about the cost of programs, and about the functionality of programs. If I wanted fast co

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-02 Thread Stefan Behnel
Isaac Gouy wrote: > On Mar 1, 11:24 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: >> Isaac Gouy wrote: >>> On Mar 1, 8:10 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: As long as that gives you improvements of 100-1000 times almost for free, I wouldn't bother too much with changing the platform just because someone shows me

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Isaac Gouy
On Mar 1, 11:24 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Isaac Gouy wrote: > > On Mar 1, 8:10 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > >> As long as that gives you improvements of > >> 100-1000 times almost for free, I wouldn't bother too much with changing > >> the platform just because someone shows me benchmark results of

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Isaac Gouy
On Mar 1, 11:15 am, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > * Isaac Gouy (Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:27:05 -0800 (PST)) > > > On Mar 1, 8:10 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > > > Paul Rubin wrote: > > > > Steve Holden writes: > > > >> I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has to do with Python. > > > > > In the real w

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Stefan Behnel
Isaac Gouy wrote: > On Mar 1, 8:10 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: >> As long as that gives you improvements of >> 100-1000 times almost for free, I wouldn't bother too much with changing >> the platform just because someone shows me benchmark results of some code >> that I absolutely don't need in my dai

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Isaac Gouy (Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:27:05 -0800 (PST)) > On Mar 1, 8:10 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > > Paul Rubin wrote: > > > Steve Holden writes: > > >> I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has to do with Python. > > > > > In the real world, people care about the relative speed of programs.

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Isaac Gouy
On Mar 1, 8:10 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Paul Rubin wrote: > > Steve Holden writes: > >> I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has to do with Python. > > > In the real world, people care about the relative speed of programs. > > Fine, but theShootoutonAliothisn't a particularly pythonic

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Stefan Behnel
Paul Rubin wrote: > Steve Holden writes: >> I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has to do with Python. > > In the real world, people care about the relative speed of programs. Fine, but the Shootout on Alioth isn't a particularly pythonic one. It deals almost exclusively with computati

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Rubin
Steve Holden writes: > I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has to do with Python. In the real world, people care about the relative speed of programs. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Steve Holden
Kless wrote: > Does anybody has seen the performance of Python 3? > Respect to speed it's the last language together to Ruby 1.8, but Ruby > 1.9 has a lot of better performance. :( > I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has to do with Python. Unless, of course, yo

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Christian Heimes
Kless schrieb: > Does anybody has seen the performance of Python 3? > Respect to speed it's the last language together to Ruby 1.8, but Ruby > 1.9 has a lot of better performance. :( Python 3.0 is slower than Python 2.5 and 2.6. Lot's of code was added or modified -- co

Re: Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Akira Kitada
Is this what you are looking for? http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=python3&lang2=yarv&box=1 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Kless wrote: > Does anybody has seen the performance of Python 3? > Respect to speed it's the last language to

Performance of Python 3

2009-03-01 Thread Kless
Does anybody has seen the performance of Python 3? Respect to speed it's the last language together to Ruby 1.8, but Ruby 1.9 has a lot of better performance. :( http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list