Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread wesley chun
(warning: LONG reply) thanks to those above for the kind remarks. tackling comments and questions, not quite in chronological order. :-) > Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? this book is targeted towards technical professionals already literate in another high-level

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread John Salerno
John Coleman wrote: > John Coleman wrote: >> John Salerno wrote: >>> John Coleman wrote: Greetings, My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" just arrived from Amazon on Friday. >>> Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? I thought >>>

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread John Coleman
John Coleman wrote: > John Salerno wrote: > > John Coleman wrote: > > > Greetings, > > >My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" > > > just arrived from Amazon on Friday. > > > > Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? I thought > > about getting

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread John Coleman
John Salerno wrote: > John Coleman wrote: > > Greetings, > >My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" > > just arrived from Amazon on Friday. > > Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? I thought > about getting it, but I'm not sure if it will be e

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread John Salerno
John Coleman wrote: > Greetings, >My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" > just arrived from Amazon on Friday. Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? I thought about getting it, but I'm not sure if it will be either 1) too much repetition of

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread David Lees
John Coleman wrote: > Greetings, >My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" > just arrived from Amazon on Friday. What really jumped out at me is an > interesting feature about how it sequences its topics, namely, > (user-defined) functions are not introduced until chapt

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread UrsusMaximus
I must say I find Wesley Chun's explanations to be most understandable. I cant' exactly figure out why yet, but he has a way of explaining something, like, say, decorators, that in minimal words elucidates for me the intent behind why they are useful. That helps me understand how they work. I just

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
...Skimmed through the previous edition. I don't normally read programming books -- just use the chapters that I need when I need them, unless of course there is a clever plot twist coming up ahead (for ex.: "Next: The revenge of lambdas. Will they stay or will they go?" ;-) Why? Have you read

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
I meant "omitted" not as complete omission but as not being there sooner... John Coleman wrote: > A is not ommitted from DBECAFG - it just appears in a non-standard > order. If the book simply ommitted functions then it would be a > shocking ommission. As it is, it is just a curious way of sequenc

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread John Coleman
A is not ommitted from DBECAFG - it just appears in a non-standard order. If the book simply ommitted functions then it would be a shocking ommission. As it is, it is just a curious way of sequencing topics. Functions are in chapter 11 out of 23 chapters - sounds like the "core" of the book to me.

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Nick Vatamaniuc wrote: > I would consider that an omission. Functions are very important in > Python. I think the user/reader should see the _def_ and _class_ > statement fairly soon in the introduction. The name of the book is > thus somewhat misleading, because functions are at the "core" of >

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
I would consider that an omission. Functions are very important in Python. I think the user/reader should see the _def_ and _class_ statement fairly soon in the introduction. The name of the book is thus somewhat misleading, because functions are at the "core" of Python. Functions should be right

Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread John Coleman
Greetings, My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" just arrived from Amazon on Friday. What really jumped out at me is an interesting feature about how it sequences its topics, namely, (user-defined) functions are not introduced until chapter 11, fully 400 pages into th