Random832 wrote:
Except for the fact that the actual keyboard that Emacs was originally
developed for [the Knight Keyboard, and the later Symbolics "Space
Cadet" Keyboards] had the control key more or less where it is on modern
PC keyboards [slightly further to the right, so easier to reach with
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016, at 17:03, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> mm0fmf wrote:
> > +1 for knowing where CTRL should be.
> > Bonus +1 for having used an ASR33.
>
> And it's quite remarkable that the designers of the ASR33
> knew exactly where it would need to be for Emacs users
> years later! I think Richard
mm0fmf wrote:
+1 for knowing where CTRL should be.
Bonus +1 for having used an ASR33.
And it's quite remarkable that the designers of the ASR33
knew exactly where it would need to be for Emacs users
years later! I think Richard Stallman must have a time
machine as well.
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> +1 for knowing where CTRL should be.
Bonus +1 for having used an ASR33.
;-)
I'm sure I must have used an ASR33, but can't recall what it might have
been connected to. I do remember using card punch machines for IBM 360
input in 1972 at USC, and toggling front panel switches for binary input on
On 15/12/2016 18:05, Peter Pearson wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:50:30 -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Peter Pearson
wrote:
Train your fingers to use C-[.
As I recall, the location of the Ctrl key was one of the differences
between Sun and PC101 keyboards. Does
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016, 01:06 Skip Montanaro, wrote:
I know this isn't a Python-specific question, but i got zero useful
responses from the help-gnu-emacs list for some reason. I think this
expression should not evaluate to the empty set:
set(python_programmers) & set(emacs_users) & set(new_macbook
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:50:30 -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Peter Pearson
> wrote:
>> Train your fingers to use C-[.
>
> As I recall, the location of the Ctrl key was one of the differences
> between Sun and PC101 keyboards. Doesn't matter so much now, as Sun
> has
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Peter Pearson
wrote:
> Train your fingers to use C-[.
As I recall, the location of the Ctrl key was one of the differences
between Sun and PC101 keyboards. Doesn't matter so much now, as Sun
has gone the way of the dodo, but it moved around more for me than ESC
o
> If you need a full time ESC key then you are just "typing it wrong" as Steve
> Jobs
> would say if he wasn't dead.
Shouldn't the use of ESC, C-[, Alt, or some other mapped key be
treated as a valid personal preference?
I've been using some variety of Emacs (there have been many) since the
earl
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 19:06:45 -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> I know this isn't a Python-specific question, but
[snip]
> Yes, I know I can use C-[ or the Alt key instead of ESC.
I know this isn't the sort of answer you wanted, but . . .
Train your fingers to use C-[. I did, decades ago, because
On 2016-12-14, mm0fmf wrote:
> On 14/12/2016 02:40, Paul Rubin wrote:
>> Skip Montanaro writes:
>>> Does the lack of a physical ESC key create problems for people, especially
>>> Emacs users?
>>
>> Not a Mac user and I rarely use ESC instead of ALT while editing with
>> Emacs on a local computer,
On 14/12/2016 02:40, Paul Rubin wrote:
Skip Montanaro writes:
Does the lack of a physical ESC key create problems for people, especially
Emacs users?
Not a Mac user and I rarely use ESC instead of ALT while editing with
Emacs on a local computer, but when editing remotely I do have to use
ESC
On 12/13/2016 09:22 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Paul Rubin wrote:
>> First it was the hipster Mac users
>> with the Beatnik black berets and turtlenecks, and now this.
>
> Once you're in the clutches of Apple, there is no Escape.
That's so not true! I've escaped dozens of times! ;)
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In Gregory Ewing
writes:
> Once you're in the clutches of Apple, there is no Escape.
Ha!
--
John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
-- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb
Paul Rubin wrote:
First it was the hipster Mac users
with the Beatnik black berets and turtlenecks, and now this.
Once you're in the clutches of Apple, there is no Escape.
--
Greg
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Skip Montanaro writes:
> Does the lack of a physical ESC key create problems for people, especially
> Emacs users?
Not a Mac user and I rarely use ESC instead of ALT while editing with
Emacs on a local computer, but when editing remotely I do have to use
ESC because the Gnome terminal emulator st
On 12/13/2016 06:06 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> So, for those of you who've tried it, does the lack of a physical ESC key
> create problems?
If there were problems with it I imagine ViM users would probably be
more inconvenienced than Emacs users. I haven't heard anything about
people's real-worl
I know this isn't a Python-specific question, but i got zero useful
responses from the help-gnu-emacs list for some reason. I think this
expression should not evaluate to the empty set:
set(python_programmers) & set(emacs_users) & set(new_macbookpro_owners)
Hopefully there are a few people out th
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