Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups

2021-05-10 Thread Mirko via Python-list
Am 09.05.2021 um 02:34 schrieb Michael Torrie: > On 5/8/21 3:28 PM, Mirko via Python-list wrote: >> >> I apologize for this OT post, especially because it's in reply to an >> at least partly troll post, but I just can't resist. Sorry. >> >> P.S.: *NOT* among the core symptoms of (the high-function

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-09 Thread Michael Torrie
On 5/9/21 11:26 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > Out of curiosity, how do people without a Code of Conduct > manage and prevent abuse in between people? I was about > to organise something last year but did not find a better solution > than a code of conduct to ensure smoothness. Well the idea

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-09 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
Greetings, Out of curiosity, how do people without a Code of Conduct manage and prevent abuse in between people? I was about to organise something last year but did not find a better solution than a code of conduct to ensure smoothness. Well the idea was a before-hand signed code of conduct. It be

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-09 Thread Jason C. McDonald
> I disagree. Many people are opposed to CoCs for a variety of reasons > including the fact that many CoCs are political in nature. Others > oppose them for legal liability reasons. On his radio show Ask Noah (a > radio show about Linux), Noah has interviewed several people who oppose > CoCs for

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-09 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > That said, there is nothing to be gained by upsetting people... > I misquoted the relevant section from Chris' answer, i wanted to quote: *I'm not saying that the previous situation was GOOD, but I'm far fromsure that the current si

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-09 Thread dn via Python-list
On 09/05/2021 20.31, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:29 AM Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> Probably the same reason it has never worked. The only thing that's >> changed is the social acceptability of vilifying those you don't like. >> Once upon a time, there were those i

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-09 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
I meant to quote this part actually: I'm not saying that the previous situation was GOOD, but I'm far from sure that the current situation is any better - look at the arguments regarding branch naming, which completely sidelined all technical considerations in favour of one single political motiva

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-09 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:29 AM Chris Angelico wrote: > > Probably the same reason it has never worked. The only thing that's > changed is the social acceptability of vilifying those you don't like. > Once upon a time, there were those in the community who had all the > power, and those on the fri

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:10 AM Michael Torrie wrote: > > On 5/8/21 6:23 PM, Jason C. McDonald wrote: > > Usually, I find when people dump on CoCs, they're just angry at > > accountability. I haven't known anyone yet who was a productive > > member of Python and opposed to the CoC, at least in pri

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-08 Thread Michael Torrie
On 5/8/21 6:23 PM, Jason C. McDonald wrote: > Usually, I find when people dump on CoCs, they're just angry at > accountability. I haven't known anyone yet who was a productive > member of Python and opposed to the CoC, at least in principle > and aim. I disagree. Many people are opposed to CoCs f

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-08 Thread Michael Torrie
On 5/8/21 3:28 PM, Mirko via Python-list wrote: > > I apologize for this OT post, especially because it's in reply to an > at least partly troll post, but I just can't resist. Sorry. > > P.S.: *NOT* among the core symptoms of (the high-functioning levels) > of ASS is the inability to learn. Mind

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-08 Thread Jason C. McDonald
Very well said! It's quite easy to use one's disadvantages as an excuse for anti-social behavior. The Code of Conduct certainly isn't perfect, but it has proven to be one of the most effective tools in keeping a community healthy. Usually, I find when people dump on CoCs, they're just angry at acc

OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

2021-05-08 Thread Mirko via Python-list
I apologize for this OT post, especially because it's in reply to an at least partly troll post, but I just can't resist. Sorry. Am 08.05.2021 um 14:09 schrieb Talkie Toaster: > On 06/05/2021 18:56, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> Quite frankly I don't care how this discussion goes as the Python >> co