Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-31 Thread Heikki Toivonen
Jeffrey Gaynor wrote: > A final question -- how widely is M2Crypto used? Since I will have to now > pitch >to our group that this is preferable the first questions they will ask are about >stability, who is using it and how secure is it really, especially since it is >at version 0.20.2 (i.e. no m

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-30 Thread Gregory Ewing
David Robinow wrote: Never use security software version 1.0 or greater. It was written by an author insufficiently paranoid. Hmmm. So to get people to trust your security software, you should start with version 0.0 and increment by 0.001 for each release. :-) -- Greg -- http://mail.python

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-29 Thread geremy condra
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:23:48 -0700 > geremy condra wrote: >> > >> >   The new Python SSL module in 2.6 and later has a huge built-in >> > security hole - it doesn't verify the domain against the >> > certificate.  As someone else put it, th

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-29 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:23:48 -0700 geremy condra wrote: > > > >   The new Python SSL module in 2.6 and later has a huge built-in > > security hole - it doesn't verify the domain against the > > certificate.  As someone else put it, this means "you get to > > talk securely with your attacker." As l

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-29 Thread John Nagle
On 7/28/2010 10:23 PM, geremy condra wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:08 PM, John Nagle wrote: On 7/28/2010 6:26 PM, geremy condra wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Jeffrey Gaynorwrote: The new Python SSL module in 2.6 and later has a huge built-in security hole - it doesn't

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-29 Thread Christian Heimes
> I know very little about security, but one thing I think I know. Never > use security software version 1.0 or greater. It was written by an > author insufficiently paranoid. OpenSSL 1.0.0a was released about a month ago. ;) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-29 Thread David Robinow
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Jeffrey Gaynor wrote: > ... > A final question -- how widely is M2Crypto used? Since I will have to now > pitch to our group that this is preferable the first questions they will ask > are about stability, who is using it and how secure is it really, especially

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-29 Thread Jeffrey Gaynor
0.20.2 (i.e. no major release yet). Thanks again! Jeff - Original Message - From: "John Nagle" To: python-list@python.org Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:08:57 AM Subject: Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification On 7/28/2010 6:26 PM, geremy condra w

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-28 Thread geremy condra
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:08 PM, John Nagle wrote: > On 7/28/2010 6:26 PM, geremy condra wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Jeffrey >> Gaynor  wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am making a first large project in python and am having quite a >>> bit of difficulty unscrambling various python

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-28 Thread John Nagle
On 7/28/2010 6:26 PM, geremy condra wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Jeffrey Gaynor wrote: Hi, I am making a first large project in python and am having quite a bit of difficulty unscrambling various python versions and what they can/cannot do. To wit, I must communicate with certain se

Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-28 Thread geremy condra
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Jeffrey Gaynor wrote: > Hi, > > I am making a first large project in python and am having quite a bit of > difficulty unscrambling various python versions and what they can/cannot do. > To wit, I must communicate with certain services via https and am required to

Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

2010-07-28 Thread Jeffrey Gaynor
Hi, I am making a first large project in python and am having quite a bit of difficulty unscrambling various python versions and what they can/cannot do. To wit, I must communicate with certain services via https and am required to perform certificate verification on them. The problem is that