Re: OT: Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-25 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> The article implied that the automated system would allow for > /shorter paths/ (the shortest path is the great circle, so this > statement indicates that trans-oceanic flights are not using great > circle/GPS routing). Most likely, the flights are using 50 minute "plumb > lines", with a he

Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-24 Thread paron
Howard Butler http://hobu.biz/ has some nice Python wrappers for gdal and Frank Warmerdam's other tools. I have to say, though, that geodesy is inherently complicated. Python makes it easy to program, but not easy to understand. http://maps.hobu.net:7080/RPC2 is an XMLRPC service that he exposes th

Re: OT: Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-24 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Of course, the great circle arc, except for paths with start/end > latitude of 0 (equator) or with (lon1 - lon2) = 0, require a constant > variation in compass heading -- and I don't think IFR currently make use > of great circle arcs (and GPS to maintain them). I'

Re: OT: Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Rocco Moretti wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> Diez B. Roggisch wrote: >> >>> Tim Daneliuk wrote: >>> Casey Hawthorne wrote: > > Do your planes fly over the earth's surface or through the ground? Why do you presume this has anything to do with airp

Re: OT: Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Paul Rubin wrote: > Tim Daneliuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>Huh? When traversing along the surface of the earth, it's curvature >>is relevant in computing total distance. An airplane flies more-or-less >>in a straight line above that curvature. For sufficiently long airplane >>routes (wh

Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Cousin Stanley
| | 1) Given the latitude/longitude of two locations, compute the distance |between them. | | "Distance" in this case would be either the straight-line |flying distance, or the actual over-ground distance that accounts |for the earth's curvature. # ---

Re: OT: Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Paul Rubin
Tim Daneliuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Huh? When traversing along the surface of the earth, it's curvature > is relevant in computing total distance. An airplane flies more-or-less > in a straight line above that curvature. For sufficiently long airplane > routes (where the ascent/descent d

Re: OT: Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Rocco Moretti
Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > >> Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> >>> Casey Hawthorne wrote: >>> Do your planes fly over the earth's surface or through the ground? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Why do you presume this has anything to do with airplanes? >>> >> >> That was supposed to be a f

OT: Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> Casey Hawthorne wrote: >> >>> >>> Do your planes fly over the earth's surface or through the ground? >> >> >> >> Why do you presume this has anything to do with airplanes? >> > > That was supposed to be a funny remark regarding that your > "str

Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> For spherical earth, this is easy, just treat the 2 locations as > vectors whose origin is at the center of the earth and whose length is > the radius of the earth. Convert the lat-long to 3-D rectangular > coordinates and now the angle between the vectors is > arccos(x dotproduct y). The over

Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-23 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Casey Hawthorne wrote: >> >> Do your planes fly over the earth's surface or through the ground? > > > Why do you presume this has anything to do with airplanes? > That was supposed to be a funny remark regarding that your "straight-line-distance" makes no sense at all -

Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-22 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Casey Hawthorne wrote: > Tim Daneliuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Is anyone aware of freely available Python modules that can do any of >>the following tasks: >> >>1) Given the latitude/longitude of two locations, compute the distance >> between them. "Distance" in this case would be eith

Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-22 Thread Paul Rubin
Tim Daneliuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) Given the latitude/longitude of two locations, compute the distance > between them. "Distance" in this case would be either the straight-line > flying distance, or the actual over-ground distance that accounts for > the earth's curvature.

Re: Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-22 Thread Casey Hawthorne
Tim Daneliuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is anyone aware of freely available Python modules that can do any of >the following tasks: > >1) Given the latitude/longitude of two locations, compute the distance >between them. "Distance" in this case would be either the straight-line >flying d

Looking For Geodetic Python Software

2005-06-22 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Is anyone aware of freely available Python modules that can do any of the following tasks: 1) Given the latitude/longitude of two locations, compute the distance between them. "Distance" in this case would be either the straight-line flying distance, or the actual over-ground distance tha