Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-07 Thread ERowe
Alex Martelli wrote: > Yes, but I haven't found knowing (and using) Python dampens my > enthusiasms for learning new languages. Using a language for real life > programming isn't the only reason to learn it, after all. Mozart (==Oz) > is a great way to reflect on programming paradigms (and Van R

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-06 Thread Alex Martelli
Paul Rubin wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: > > I can't imagine NOT getting enthusiastic and stimulated by reading Van > > Roy and Hariri's book -- it IS quite as good and readable as SICP. > > It's been on my want-to-read list for a long time. I have

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-06 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Paul Rubin wrote: > "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>It's a great book - I cetainly owe it the better part of my thesis >>about multi level specification for functional languages. If you want >>to understand type-systems, its a great comprehensive read. > > > So do I really wan

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-06 Thread Paul Rubin
"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's a great book - I cetainly owe it the better part of my thesis > about multi level specification for functional languages. If you want > to understand type-systems, its a great comprehensive read. So do I really want to understand type systems?

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-06 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> Do you have any opinion of "Types and Programming Languages" by > Pierce? Autrijus Tang (the guy who started PUGS, the Perl 6 > implementation in Haskell) raves about it in an interview, and another > guy I know recommended it too, but I haven't actually looked at a copy > yet (stores I've looke

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-06 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: > I can't imagine NOT getting enthusiastic and stimulated by reading Van > Roy and Hariri's book -- it IS quite as good and readable as SICP. It's been on my want-to-read list for a long time. I have the downloaded draft edition (from before the print edi

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-04 Thread Alex Martelli
Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Martelli wrote: > > Yes, but I haven't found knowing (and using) Python dampens my > > enthusiasms for learning new languages. > > But you're more enthusiatic than most of us Alex. I wish > I could say the same, but I must admit that I only did > hal

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-04 Thread Magnus Lycka
Alex Martelli wrote: > Yes, but I haven't found knowing (and using) Python dampens my > enthusiasms for learning new languages. But you're more enthusiatic than most of us Alex. I wish I could say the same, but I must admit that I only did halfhearted attempts at learning new languages after Pytho

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread Alex Martelli
Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Salerno wrote: > > LOL. As weird as it sounds, that's what I *don't* want to happen with > > C#! I've spent a lot of time with it, and I love it, but I don't want > > Python to take over! :) > > Then it might be better to keep away from Python. It *

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread Kent Johnson
John Salerno wrote: > I thought it might be interesting to get some opinions on when you know > when you're "done" learning a language. I've been learning C# for a few > months (albeit not intensively) and I feel I have a good grasp of the > language in general. Never? When you move on? You ca

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread Jeremy Greenwald
I would say that learning a few languages is necessary to realizing what type of things different languages excel at. For instance I didn't understand why java would never allocate objects on the stack until I read about using object pointers in C++ to lower compilation dependecies. This helped m

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread Magnus Lycka
John Salerno wrote: > LOL. As weird as it sounds, that's what I *don't* want to happen with > C#! I've spent a lot of time with it, and I love it, but I don't want > Python to take over! :) Then it might be better to keep away from Python. It *will* spoil you. Python is a good team player. It's

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread Magnus Lycka
infidel wrote: > Python has spoiled me. I used to periodically try out new languages > just for fun, but since learning Python, it's become a lot less > interesting. I find myself preferring to just try new ideas or > techniques in Python rather than searching for new languages to dabble > in. A

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread John Salerno
LOL. As weird as it sounds, that's what I *don't* want to happen with C#! I've spent a lot of time with it, and I love it, but I don't want Python to take over! :) infidel wrote: > Python has spoiled me. I used to periodically try out new languages > just for fun, but since learning Python,

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread infidel
Python has spoiled me. I used to periodically try out new languages just for fun, but since learning Python, it's become a lot less interesting. I find myself preferring to just try new ideas or techniques in Python rather than searching for new languages to dabble in. The last few I've download

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread Thomas Guettler
Am Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:47:52 + schrieb John Salerno: > After my last post, I thought of another question as a result of the > following: > > -- > Mike Meyer wrote: > > John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [Wants to learn C# and Python simultaneously.] >

Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread John Salerno
After my last post, I thought of another question as a result of the following: -- Mike Meyer wrote: > John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Wants to learn C# and Python simultaneously.] > >>So my question is, is this feasible? > > > Should be. It might be