Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-10 Thread Roy Smith
Gerhard Häring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The difference is that Guido learnt from the mistakes of Perl 6 and set > much more realistic (moderate) goals for Python 3.0. Another difference is that by the time Perl 6 was being worked on, there were other new things on the horizon. People wanti

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-10 Thread Carl Banks
On Apr 9, 11:53 am, John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jmDesktop wrote: > > If I continue in Python 2.5.x, am I making a mistake? Is it really > > that different? > > No. It may never happen, either. The Perl crowd tried > something like this, Perl 6, which was announced in 2000 and sti

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-10 Thread Gerhard Häring
John Nagle wrote: > jmDesktop wrote: > >> If I continue in Python 2.5.x, am I making a mistake? Is it really >> that different? > >No. It may never happen, either. The Perl crowd tried > something like this, Perl 6, which was announced in 2000 and still > hasn't come out. The C++ standard

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread John Machin
On Apr 10, 8:12 am, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "jmDesktop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Two new versions of the language are currently in development: version > | 2.6, which retains backwards compatibility with previous releases; and > | versio

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread Terry Reedy
"jmDesktop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Two new versions of the language are currently in development: version | 2.6, which retains backwards compatibility with previous releases; and | version 3.0, which breaks backwards compatibility to the extent that | even t

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread Christian Heimes
jmDesktop schrieb: > If I continue in Python 2.5.x, am I making a mistake? Is it really > that different? I'm speaking as a long time Python user and Python core developer here. You are safe to ignore Python 3.0 for now. :] You can start worrying about the 3.x series in 2010 when Python 3.1 is o

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread Istvan Albert
On Apr 9, 11:53 am, John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The general consensus is that Python 3.x isn't much of an there are a number of unfortunate typos in there that interfere with the message, instead of "The general consensus is" I think you actually meant "In my opinion" i. -- ht

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread John Nagle
jmDesktop wrote: > If I continue in Python 2.5.x, am I making a mistake? Is it really > that different? No. It may never happen, either. The Perl crowd tried something like this, Perl 6, which was announced in 2000 and still hasn't come out. The C++ standards committee has been working on

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread Steve Holden
Mike Driscoll wrote: > On Apr 9, 7:04 am, jmDesktop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am a new Python programmer. I have always desired to learn Python, >> but have never had the opportunity. Recently this has changed, and I >> have an opportunity to get away from the .NET framework. I found >> Dj

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread Roy Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There will be a `2to3.py` program coming with Python 2.6 that tries to > convert most changes automatically. You may have to change the 2.6 code > in a way that makes the automatic conversion possible but it i

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Apr 9, 7:04 am, jmDesktop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a new Python programmer. I have always desired to learn Python, > but have never had the opportunity. Recently this has changed, and I > have an opportunity to get away from the .NET framework. I found > Django (and other web framewo

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
jmDesktop wrote: > I am a new Python programmer. I have always desired to learn Python, > but have never had the opportunity. Recently this has changed, and I > have an opportunity to get away from the .NET framework. I found > Django (and other web frameworks) and began my quest to learn. I >

Re: I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:04:20 -0700, jmDesktop wrote: > If I continue in Python 2.5.x, am I making a mistake? Is it really > that different? No it's still Python and most things you've learned with 2.x stay the same. > Here is an excerpt that is causing me concern: > > Two new versions of the l

I am worried about Python 3

2008-04-09 Thread jmDesktop
I am a new Python programmer. I have always desired to learn Python, but have never had the opportunity. Recently this has changed, and I have an opportunity to get away from the .NET framework. I found Django (and other web frameworks) and began my quest to learn. I started reading Dive Into P