Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-24 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . >Maybe companies such as Intel, IBM, and Sun would devote resources to >optimizing Python on their hardware if the language had an ISO >standard, as do C, C++, a

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-24 Thread beliavsky
Terry Reedy wrote: > "Cameron Laird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in > > http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. > > Interesting quote from Guido: "If the same effort were poured into

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-23 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Advocates of languages and programming methodologies sometimes compare >the current version of their favorite language to an old version of >their disfavored language, resulting in skewed comparisons. For >example, Conway writes > >"Inter

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-23 Thread sigzero
Cameron Laird wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . > . > . > >It would have been nice to put in a blurb for some of the cool stuff > >planned for 8.5. That way people could see that things are *

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-23 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . >It would have been nice to put in a blurb for some of the cool stuff >planned for 8.5. That way people could see that things are *happening* >in the Tcl world a

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-23 Thread sigzero
Cameron Laird wrote: > *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in > http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. It would have been nice to put in a blurb for some of the cool stuff planned for 8.5. That way people could see that things are *happening* in the Tcl

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-23 Thread sigzero
That was a great article. I really enjoyed it. We need more like it. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-23 Thread beliavsky
Advocates of languages and programming methodologies sometimes compare the current version of their favorite language to an old version of their disfavored language, resulting in skewed comparisons. For example, Conway writes "Interpreted languages do two things much better than compiled languages

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-23 Thread Christopher Nelson
Hey, Jeff Hobbs got the last word. ;-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-22 Thread Roose
> Except from a the standard, powerful, > looks-good-everywhere-and-has-a-tree-widget GUI toolkit? :) > > Seriously, I think this is *very* important. Yes, and a modern toolset/IDE. Generators and decorators and all that are nice, but their usefulness pales in comparison to having a decent IDE or

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-22 Thread Peter Hansen
Jeff Schwab wrote: Peter Maas wrote: Peter Hansen schrieb: Cameron Laird wrote: *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. Which, sadly, doesn't seem to work with Firefox here, though IE shows it fine. :-( Mozilla 1.7.3 s

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-22 Thread jfj
Terry Reedy wrote: "Cameron Laird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. Interesting quote from Guido: "If the same effort were poured into speeding up

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-22 Thread Terry Reedy
"Cameron Laird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in > http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. Interesting quote from Guido: "If the same effort were poured into speeding up Python as Sun d

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-22 Thread Jeff Schwab
Peter Maas wrote: Peter Hansen schrieb: Cameron Laird wrote: *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. Which, sadly, doesn't seem to work with Firefox here, though IE shows it fine. :-( Mozilla 1.7.3 shows it fine, too

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-22 Thread Peter Maas
Peter Hansen schrieb: Cameron Laird wrote: *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. Which, sadly, doesn't seem to work with Firefox here, though IE shows it fine. :-( Mozilla 1.7.3 shows it fine, too. FF bug or config

Re: Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-22 Thread Peter Hansen
Cameron Laird wrote: *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. Which, sadly, doesn't seem to work with Firefox here, though IE shows it fine. :-( -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Getting the word to conventional programmers

2005-03-22 Thread Cameron Laird
*DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list