Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-13 Thread John J. Lee
Phil Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 13 February 2006 12:33 am, John J. Lee wrote: > > Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > > > Commercial Qt is a little out of my price range. > > > > Commercial *PyQt* (including a license for Qt for use only with PyQt) > > is

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-13 Thread Phil Thompson
On Monday 13 February 2006 12:33 am, John J. Lee wrote: > Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > > > Commercial Qt is a little out of my price range. > > Commercial *PyQt* (including a license for Qt for use only with PyQt) > is $400 (USD) per developer (plus an extra $300/year if you w

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-12 Thread John J. Lee
Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Commercial Qt is a little out of my price range. Commercial *PyQt* (including a license for Qt for use only with PyQt) is $400 (USD) per developer (plus an extra $300/year if you want upgrades). That's compared to Qt license for use *with C++* vary

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Neil Hodgson
Kevin Walzer: > Do these screenshots look "non-native" to you? > > http://www.wordtech-software.com/ireveal-mac.png Yes. I don't use a Mac much but the following are really obvious. The column header icons don't fit within the header. The scroll bar is squished up too thin. The icons are f

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Chris Mellon
On 2/11/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Mellon wrote: > > > > > If you're planning on selling an application, especially to OS X > > users, then Tk is absolutely out of the question. It doesn't have even > > the slightest resemblence to native behavior, and lacks the polish and

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Peter Decker
On 2/11/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, it seems > very Windows/Linux-centric. Is anyone using it on OS X? I almost forgot: take a look at this screencast: http://leafe.com/screencasts/sizers2.html It's the second part of a demonstration on using sizers in the Dabo visual de

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Peter Decker
On 2/11/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dabo looks interesting, but isn't it mainly for database applications? > Has any other kind of application been developed with it? Also, it seems > very Windows/Linux-centric. Is anyone using it on OS X? The Dabo demo comes with several games

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Kevin Walzer
Peter Decker wrote: > On 2/10/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm undertaking my first semi-substantial Python GUI application after a >> long time dabbling with the language. >> > ... >> So: my question is, would it be more productive for me to wrestle with >> these extensions wh

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Kevin Walzer
Steve Holden wrote: > Robert Hicks wrote: >> Wow you are so wrong about Tk on OSX. Soon this is just not going to be >> the case at all for any of the system Tcl/Tk runs on. The Tcl folks >> have come out with a package called "Tile" that is going to be rolled >> in. It gives you native L&F on OSX,

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Kevin Walzer
Chris Mellon wrote: > > If you're planning on selling an application, especially to OS X > users, then Tk is absolutely out of the question. It doesn't have even > the slightest resemblence to native behavior, and lacks the polish and > flash that occasionally lets a non-native app get away with

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Steve Holden
Robert Hicks wrote: > Wow you are so wrong about Tk on OSX. Soon this is just not going to be > the case at all for any of the system Tcl/Tk runs on. The Tcl folks > have come out with a package called "Tile" that is going to be rolled > in. It gives you native L&F on OSX, Windows, Linux. > This i

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Robert Hicks
Wow you are so wrong about Tk on OSX. Soon this is just not going to be the case at all for any of the system Tcl/Tk runs on. The Tcl folks have come out with a package called "Tile" that is going to be rolled in. It gives you native L&F on OSX, Windows, Linux. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Lawrence Oluyede
Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unfortunately, PyGTK does not run natively on the Mac (it's X11 only). There's some work in progress: http://developer.imendio.com/wiki/Gtk_Mac_OS_X -- Lawrence - http://www.oluyede.org/blog "Anyone can freely use whatever he wants but the light at the

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Peter Decker
On 2/10/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm undertaking my first semi-substantial Python GUI application after a > long time dabbling with the language. > ... > So: my question is, would it be more productive for me to wrestle with > these extensions when there doesn't seem to be muc

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Kevin Walzer
Florian Nykrin wrote: > Hi Kevin! > > I have no experience with Tkinter, but I did some small GUIs with > wxPython and PyGTK. > > wxPython works very well on Windows, but on Linux (Ubuntu/Debian in my > case) it is very difficult to work with and buggy. > PyGTK-Applications on the other hand mayb

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Kevin Walzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What's wrong with wxPython? (http://www.wxpython.org) > Didn't see it mentioned here. > > > David Berlin > http://farpy.holev.com - Python GUI Editor > I did mention it...see "scaling the wxPython mountain." -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.w

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-02-11, Florian Nykrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wxPython works very well on Windows, but on Linux (Ubuntu/Debian in my > case) it is very difficult to work with and buggy. That's odd. I've been using wxPython for many years on both Windows and on many distributions and haven't found

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-02-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's wrong with wxPython? (http://www.wxpython.org) Nothing. A lot of us use it. > Didn't see it mentioned here. I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were supposed to. You might want to check the wxpython mailing list if you want to se

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Florian Nykrin
Hi Kevin! I have no experience with Tkinter, but I did some small GUIs with wxPython and PyGTK. wxPython works very well on Windows, but on Linux (Ubuntu/Debian in my case) it is very difficult to work with and buggy. PyGTK-Applications on the other hand maybe do not look totally like Windows-

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Chris Mellon
On 2/10/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...with a twist. > > I'm undertaking my first semi-substantial Python GUI application after a > long time dabbling with the language. > > I'm fairly experienced with Tcl/Tk, so Tkinter seems the obvious choice > to reduce my Python learning curv

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's wrong with wxPython? (http://www.wxpython.org) Didn't see it mentioned here. David Berlin http://farpy.holev.com - Python GUI Editor -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-10 Thread Kevin Walzer
Dan Sommers wrote: > On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:16:36 -0500, > Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> For what it's worth, my application has to run on OS X and Windows, >> and will be commercial, so this combination of requirements rules out >> PyGTK/PyQt/just about every other cross-platform G

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-10 Thread Dan Sommers
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:16:36 -0500, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what it's worth, my application has to run on OS X and Windows, > and will be commercial, so this combination of requirements rules out > PyGTK/PyQt/just about every other cross-platform GUI toolkit. According to th

Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-10 Thread Kevin Walzer
...with a twist. I'm undertaking my first semi-substantial Python GUI application after a long time dabbling with the language. I'm fairly experienced with Tcl/Tk, so Tkinter seems the obvious choice to reduce my Python learning curve. However, my Tcl applications typically make use of a *lot* of

Re: GUI toolkit question

2005-03-17 Thread Harry George
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm building an app that operates on tuples (typically pairs) of > hierarchical structures, and i'd like to add a GUI to display my > internal representation of them, and simplify manipulations/operations > on them. My requirements are: > > 1) Draw a single 3D repres

Re: GUI toolkit question

2005-03-15 Thread gsteff
If you may need to port to another language, you'll probably want to use a toolkit that helps you store the interface description seperately from the code. The example I'm most familiar with is libglade for GTK, although I believe Qt and wx have analagous facilities. I don't do 3D stuff myself, b

GUI toolkit question

2005-03-15 Thread eguy
I'm building an app that operates on tuples (typically pairs) of hierarchical structures, and i'd like to add a GUI to display my internal representation of them, and simplify manipulations/operations on them. My requirements are: 1) Draw a single 3D representation of the hierarchies, and the