On 2014-08-17, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano schrieb am 17.08.2014 um 16:21:
>> I wonder whether Ruby programmers are as obsessive about
>> Ruby's GIL?
>
> I actually wonder more whether Python programmers are really all that
> obsessive about CPython's GIL.
[...]
> Personally, I like t
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 00:43:58 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> >>> timeit.repeat('1+1')
> [0.04067762117549266, 0.019206152658126363, 0.018796680446902643]
I think you have been tripped up by the keyhole optimizer. I'm not
entirely certain, but that's probably just measuring the overhead of
evaluati
In a post about CPython's GIL, Steven D'Aprano pointed to Armin
Ronacher's criticism of the internal type slots used for dunder methods.
> http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2014/8/16/the-python-i-would-like-to-see/
I found the following interesting.
"
Since we have an __add__ method the interpreter will
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>> I don't have to care about threading issues all the time and
>> can otherwise freely choose the right model of parallelism that suits my
>> current use case when the need arises (and threads are rarely the right
>> model). I'm sure that's not just me.
>
> The sound bite
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Joseph L. Casale
wrote:
> If it weren't for these "useless" threads, you wouldn't have even been able
> to send that message, let alone do anything on a computer for that matter.
Not sure about that. I think it would be entirely possible to build a
computer that h
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> I actually wonder more whether Python programmers are really all that
> obsessive about CPython's GIL. Sure, there are always the Loud Guys who
> speak up when they feel like no-one's mentioned it for too long, but I'd
> expect the vast major
> I don't have to care about threading issues all the time and
> can otherwise freely choose the right model of parallelism that suits my
> current use case when the need arises (and threads are rarely the right
> model). I'm sure that's not just me.
The sound bite of a loyal Python coder:)
If it
Steven D'Aprano schrieb am 17.08.2014 um 16:21:
> I wonder whether Ruby programmers are as obsessive about
> Ruby's GIL?
I actually wonder more whether Python programmers are really all that
obsessive about CPython's GIL. Sure, there are always the Loud Guys who
speak up when they feel like no-one
Johannes Bauer wrote:
> On 17.08.2014 16:21, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Coincidentally after reading Armin Ronacher's criticism of the GIL in
>> Python:
>>
>> http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2014/8/16/the-python-i-would-like-to-see/
>
> Sure that's the right one? The article you linked doesn't mention th
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> The day will come that even the cheapest, meanest entry-level PC will come
> standard with 8 cores and the GIL will just be an embarrassment, but today
> is not that day. I wonder whether Ruby programmers are as obsessive about
> Ruby's GI
e GIL.
> I stumbled across this "GIL detector" script:
>
> http://yuvalg.com/blog/2011/08/09/the-gil-detector/
>
> Running it on a couple of my systems, I get these figures:
>
> CPython 2.7: 0.8/2 cores
> CPython 3.3: 1.0/2 cores
>
> Jython 2.5: 2.3/4
Coincidentally after reading Armin Ronacher's criticism of the GIL in
Python:
http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2014/8/16/the-python-i-would-like-to-see/
I stumbled across this "GIL detector" script:
http://yuvalg.com/blog/2011/08/09/the-gil-detector/
Running it on a couple of my syste
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