MRAB schreef:
On 2012-10-14 23:38, Dave Angel wrote:
On 10/14/2012 08:48 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
In article <507a3365$0$6574$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Remember using PEEK and POKE commands with BASIC back in
1978? Pretty much impossible in Python.
But, trivia
On 2012-10-14 23:38, Dave Angel wrote:
On 10/14/2012 08:48 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
In article <507a3365$0$6574$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Remember using PEEK and POKE commands with BASIC back in
1978? Pretty much impossible in Python.
But, trivial to implement
On 10/14/2012 08:48 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article <507a3365$0$6574$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> Remember using PEEK and POKE commands with BASIC back in
>> 1978? Pretty much impossible in Python.
> But, trivial to implement as an extension :-)
PEEK and
In article <507a3365$0$6574$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Remember using PEEK and POKE commands with BASIC back in
> 1978? Pretty much impossible in Python.
But, trivial to implement as an extension :-)
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On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 05:33:40 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Forcing programmers to work in one particular style is usually not the
>> job of the language/framework/library.
>
> Have you actually programmed before?
>
> *grin*
>
> I've nev
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 05:33:40 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Forcing programmers to work in one particular style is usually not the
> job of the language/framework/library.
Have you actually programmed before?
*grin*
I've never come across a language/framework/library that DOESN'T force
progra
On 2012-10-14 03:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:24:04 -0700, nbvfour wrote:
On Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:33:43 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
Nice theory, but this is the bit that I fundamentally disagree with.
Forcing programmers to work in one particular style is usua
On 10/13/12 21:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Not being Dutch, I don't know whether the obvious way to do command line
> argument handling is the getopt module or argparse. But there certainly
> isn't *only one way* to do command line argument handling.
As an aside, I just watched a fascinating vi
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:24:04 -0700, nbvfour wrote:
> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:33:43 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> Nice theory, but this is the bit that I fundamentally disagree with.
>> Forcing programmers to work in one particular style is usually not the
>> job of the language/fr
On 13 October 2012 17:48, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> The only way to support *absolutely everything* is to do nothing - to
> be a framework so thin you're invisible. (That's not to say you're
> useless; there are bridge modules that do exactly this - ctypes can
> call on any library function from P
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM, wrote:
> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:33:43 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> Nice theory, but this is the bit that I fundamentally disagree with.
>> Forcing programmers to work in one particular style is usually not the
>> job of the language/framework/lib
On Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:33:43 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> Nice theory, but this is the bit that I fundamentally disagree with.
> Forcing programmers to work in one particular style is usually not the
> job of the language/framework/library. That should be up to the
> programmer, or
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:18 AM, wrote:
> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:48:23 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> No, I don't, because I haven't tried to use it. But allow me to give
>> two examples, one on each side of the argument.
>>
>> The 'tee' utility is primarily for writing a pipe to di
On Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:48:23 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> No, I don't, because I haven't tried to use it. But allow me to give
> two examples, one on each side of the argument.
>
> The 'tee' utility is primarily for writing a pipe to disk AND to
> further pipelining, for instance:
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:57 AM, wrote:
> Do you have an example of a task that giotto can't handle that other
> frameworks can? One of my goals is to have this framework "turing complete"
> in the sense that everything that other frameworks can do, giotto should be
> able to do. I think my co
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT)
nbvf...@gmail.com wrote:
> Do you have an example of a task that giotto can't handle that other
> frameworks can? One of my goals is to have this framework "turing complete"
> in the sense that everything that other frameworks can do, giotto should be
>
On Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:13:22 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, wrote:
>
> > Basically its a framework that forces the developer(s) to strictly separate
> > the model from the view and controller. You can 'hook up' multiple
> > controllers to a project
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:12:30 +1100
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, wrote:
> > Basically its a framework that forces the developer(s) to strictly separate
> > the model from the view and controller. You can 'hook up' multiple
> > controllers to a project. The model lay
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, wrote:
> Basically its a framework that forces the developer(s) to strictly separate
> the model from the view and controller. You can 'hook up' multiple
> controllers to a project. The model layer can be completely mocked out so
> front end designers don't hav
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:49:55 -0700 (PDT)
nbvf...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://giotto.readthedocs.org/en/latest/tutorial.html
>
> Can someone give me some feedback on what they think of this framework? I
> came up with the idea of this framework a few months ago. I gave a talk at a
> local python u
http://giotto.readthedocs.org/en/latest/tutorial.html
Can someone give me some feedback on what they think of this framework? I came
up with the idea of this framework a few months ago. I gave a talk at a local
python user group regarding these ideas, but no one seemed to think I was onto
anyth
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