Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2008-02-18 Thread Simon Brunning
On Dec 29, 2007 11:10 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm considering deprecating these two functions and would like some > feedback from the community or from people who have a background in > functional programming. Personally, I'd rather you kept them around. I have no FP bac

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2008-01-10 Thread Paul Rubin
Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I presume you did scans of > > large code bases and you did not find occurrences of > > takewhile and dropwhile, right? > > Yes. I think I have used them. I don't remember exactly how. Probably something that could have been done more generally

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2008-01-03 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On Jan 3, 4:39 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 29 2007, 11:10 pm, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm considering deprecating these two functions and would like some > > feedback from the community or from people who have a background in > > functional

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2008-01-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Dec 29 2007, 11:10 pm, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm considering deprecating these two functions and would like some > feedback from the community or from people who have a background in > functional programming. Well I have just this minute used dropwhile in anger, to find

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread Matt Nordhoff
Raymond Hettinger wrote: > I'm considering deprecating these two functions and would like some > feedback from the community or from people who have a background in > functional programming. > > * I'm concerned that use cases for the two functions are uncommon and > can obscure code rather than cl

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread Paul Hankin
On Dec 31, 1:25 am, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, here is an generator version written without the state flag: > >     def iter_block(lines, start_marker, end_marker): >         lines = iter(lines) >         for line in lines: >             if line.startswith(start_marker): >

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread Raymond Hettinger
FWIW, here is an generator version written without the state flag: def iter_block(lines, start_marker, end_marker): lines = iter(lines) for line in lines: if line.startswith(start_marker): yield line break for line in lines:

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch] > I use both functions from time to time. > One "recipe" is extracting blocks from text files that are delimited by a > special start and end line. > > def iter_block(lines, start_marker, end_marker): >     return takewhile(lambda x: not x.startswith(end_marker), >      

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Michele Simionato] > in my code > base I have exactly zero occurrences of takewhile and > dropwhile, even if I tend to use the itertools quite > often. That should be telling. Thanks for the additional empirical evidence. > I presume you did scans of > large code bases and you did not find occur

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[bearophile] > Here are my usages (every sub-list is > sorted by inverted frequency usage): > > I use often or very often: > groupby( iterable[, key]) > imap( function, *iterables) > izip( *iterables) > ifilter( predicate, iterable) > islice( iterable, [start,] stop [, step]) > > I use once in whil

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread George Sakkis
On Dec 30, 4:12 pm, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 30, 3:29 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > One "recipe" is extracting blocks from text files that are delimited by a > > special start and end line. > > Neat solution! > > I actually need such function

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread Istvan Albert
On Dec 30, 3:29 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One "recipe" is extracting blocks from text files that are delimited by a > special start and end line. Neat solution! I actually need such functionality every once in a while. Takewhile + dropwhile to the rescue! i. --

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-30 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:10:24 -0800, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > These thoughts reflect my own experience with the itertools module. > It may be that your experience with them has been different. Please > let me know what you think. I seem to be in a minority here as I use both functions from time

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-29 Thread Michele Simionato
On Dec 30, 12:10 am, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm considering deprecating these two functions and would like some > feedback from the community or from people who have a background in > functional programming. I am with Steven D'Aprano when he says that takewhile and dropwhi

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-29 Thread bearophileHUGS
Almost every day I write code that uses itertools, so I find it very useful, and its functions fast. Removing useless things and keeping things tidy is often positive. But I can't tell you what to remove. Here are my usages (every sub-list is sorted by inverted frequency usage): I use often or ver

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-29 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:10:24 -0800, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > * Both functions seem simple and basic until you try to explain them to > someone else. Oh I don't know about that. The doc strings seem to do an admirable job to me. Compared to groupby(), the functions are simplicity themselves.

Re: Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-29 Thread Istvan Albert
On Dec 29, 6:10 pm, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These thoughts reflect my own experience with the itertools module. > It may be that your experience with them has been different. Please > let me know what you think. first off, the itertools module is amazing, thanks for creati

Fate of itertools.dropwhile() and itertools.takewhile()

2007-12-29 Thread Raymond Hettinger
I'm considering deprecating these two functions and would like some feedback from the community or from people who have a background in functional programming. * I'm concerned that use cases for the two functions are uncommon and can obscure code rather than clarify it. * I originally added them