Steven D'Aprano writes:
> You know, I'd give my right arm -- well, perhaps somebody else's right
> arm -- for the opportunity to some day to be interviewing an ex-RIAA
> executive, just so I can say:
>
> "I see from your CV that you took millions of customers and made them so
> mad at you that
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:17:54 -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:12:01 -0500, John Bokma
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What
>> happens if I quote such a message? It's archived, righ
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:51:20 -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On 21 Sep 2010 05:01:45 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> Hey, that would be an *awesome* google bombing project... to get lmgtfy
>> to come up as the first link for "self-righteou
On 9/20/2010 7:55 PM Lawrence D'Oliveiro said...
In message, geremy
condra wrote:
Usually here that just means its a letmegooglethatforyou.com link, which I
find more amusing than is probably healthy.
Why hold back, I also use fuckinggoogleit.com. :)
more than just a joke
fuckinggoogleit.co
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:53 AM, John Bokma wrote:
> geremy condra writes:
>
>> It's a joke. Admittedly it's a bit pointed, but it's a joke
>> nonetheless, and it does at least provide what I consider to be two
>> valuable pieces of information: that you should have googled this
>> before asking
Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
> In message <87aanbx5lq@castleamber.com>, John Bokma wrote:
>
>> I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What happens
>> if I quote such a message? It's archived, right?
>
> Where did they come from?
> Posting fragments, followed up--
> Origina
Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:12:01 -0500, John Bokma
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What happens
>> if I quote such a message? It's archived, right?
>
> Compliant clients (like
Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
> On 21 Sep 2010 05:01:45 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> Hey, that would be an *awesome* google bombing project... to get lmgtfy
>> to come up as the first link for "self-righteous dicks". 4chan, where are
>> you
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> I prefer the old fashioned version:
>
> "Google Is Your Friend"
>
> followed by a URL to the appropriate google's search results page. Or
> even more to the point:
>
> "Did you bother to google for the answer first? Because the very first
> page that comes up gives exa
geremy condra writes:
> It's a joke. Admittedly it's a bit pointed, but it's a joke
> nonetheless, and it does at least provide what I consider to be two
> valuable pieces of information: that you should have googled this
> before asking, and what you should have googled for. If I miss and
> you'
In message <87aanbx5lq@castleamber.com>, John Bokma wrote:
> I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What happens
> if I quote such a message? It's archived, right?
Where did they come from?
Posting fragments, followed up--
Originals? No more.
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In message , Dennis Lee
Bieber wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:12:01 -0500, John Bokma
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What happens
>> if I quote such a message? It's archived, right?
>
> Compliant clie
In message
,
rantingrick wrote:
> X No Archive should have never been allowed and should be removed
> immediately and forever. What is the point of posting when your words
> will be gone form memory in a short time?
My words are for now.
All I think are fleeting thoughts;
Tomorrow I am dust.
--
In message <87r5gn3ino@castleamber.com>, John Bokma wrote:
> Well, X-Archive: No is even shorter ;-).
X-No-Bananas: Yes
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In message , geremy
condra wrote:
> ... a shocking number of people don't seem to realize that lmgtfy is a
> joke. I had a person a few months ago seriously thank me for giving them a
> link that did the typing for them.
Tell them to tell all their friends about it. :)
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On Sep 20, 12:25 pm, Tim Harig wrote:
> On 2010-09-20, Brian Victor wrote:
> Usernet users also have the right to use the X-No-Archive header field.
> Does the fact that *you* happen to search usenet archives make using this
> field immoral? Shouldn't the poster have to right to determine for
>
On 2010-09-21, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Yes, I know that. I sympathized with your experience and explicitly said
> I was talking about "generic you".
Hah! Then it was *I* who wasn't reading carefully enough! I bet you
didn't expect *THAT*!
-s
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:11:37 +, Seebs wrote:
> On 2010-09-21, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:01:53 +, Seebs wrote:
>>> On 2010-09-21, geremy condra wrote: Then I posted
>>> a question on an IRC channel. I had done a ton of searching already,
>>> and I started by expl
On 2010-09-21, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:01:53 +, Seebs wrote:
>> On 2010-09-21, geremy condra wrote:
>> Then I posted a question on an IRC channel. I had done a ton of
>> searching already, and I started by explaining the top three
>> near-solutions I'd found and why e
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:01:53 +, Seebs wrote:
> On 2010-09-21, geremy condra wrote:
>> I use them when I want to conceal the target of the link. Usually here
>> that just means its a letmegooglethatforyou.com link, which I find more
>> amusing than is probably healthy.
>
> I thought the idea
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Seebs wrote:
> On 2010-09-21, geremy condra wrote:
>> I use them when I want to conceal the target of the link. Usually here
>> that just means its a letmegooglethatforyou.com link, which I find
>> more amusing than is probably healthy.
>
> I thought the idea was
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
wrote:
> In message , geremy
> condra wrote:
>
>> Usually here that just means its a letmegooglethatforyou.com link, which I
>> find more amusing than is probably healthy.
>
> Why hold back, I also use fuckinggoogleit.com. :)
Yeah, I need to st
Seebs writes:
> And this caused me to realize just how amazingly insulting that can be when
> done to someone who *did* already do the research.
Exactly. I hate lmgtfy links hidden in a tiny url. It's not only
insulting to the OP but also to people who try to learn something and
end up on a goog
On 2010-09-21, geremy condra wrote:
> I use them when I want to conceal the target of the link. Usually here
> that just means its a letmegooglethatforyou.com link, which I find
> more amusing than is probably healthy.
I thought the idea was funny at first.
Then I posted a question on an IRC cha
Tim Chase writes:
> On 09/20/10 20:12, John Bokma wrote:
>> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:25:09 +, Tim Harig wrote:
Usernet users also have the right to use the X-No-Archive header field.
>>>
>>> They do? Is that right enshrined by law somewhere? Can I go to jail fo
In message , geremy
condra wrote:
> Usually here that just means its a letmegooglethatforyou.com link, which I
> find more amusing than is probably healthy.
Why hold back, I also use fuckinggoogleit.com. :)
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Lie Ryan wrote:
> On 09/20/10 19:59, Tim Harig wrote:
>> On 2010-09-20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:46:38 +, Tim Harig wrote:
>>>
> I'm not particularly convinced that these are *significant* complaints
> about URL-shorteners. Bu
On 09/20/10 19:59, Tim Harig wrote:
> On 2010-09-20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:46:38 +, Tim Harig wrote:
>>
I'm not particularly convinced that these are *significant* complaints
about URL-shorteners. But I will say, of the last couple hundred links
I've
On 09/20/10 20:12, John Bokma wrote:
Steven D'Aprano writes:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:25:09 +, Tim Harig wrote:
Usernet users also have the right to use the X-No-Archive header field.
They do? Is that right enshrined by law somewhere? Can I go to jail for
human rights abuses if I archive X
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:25:09 +, Tim Harig wrote:
>
>>> And as a datapoint on the topic of archiving, I search usenet archives
>>> regularly when faced with a problem.
>>
>> Usernet users also have the right to use the X-No-Archive header field.
>
> They do? Is that
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:25:09 +, Tim Harig wrote:
>> And as a datapoint on the topic of archiving, I search usenet archives
>> regularly when faced with a problem.
>
> Usernet users also have the right to use the X-No-Archive header field.
They do? Is that right enshrined by law somewhere? Ca
On 9/19/2010 11:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:16:49 -0700, Aahz wrote:
Please don't use tinyurl -- it's opaque and provides zero help to anyone
who might later want to look it up (and also no accessibility if tinyurl
ever goes down). At the very least, include the origin
On 2010-09-20, Tim Harig wrote:
> You could simply place the filter in slrn; then, any urls that you see in
> your reader would already be shown with the preview prefix suitable for cut
> and paste mechanisms. If you wanted, you can even have your script
> download the preview and automatically c
On 2010-09-20, Brian Victor wrote:
> Tim Harig wrote:
>> Posting two URLs rather defeats the purpose of using a URL shortening
>> service in the first place; but, if that is what you feel is effective,
>> then by all means, do so. You are the master of your posts and you have
>> the right to post
Tim Harig wrote:
> Posting two URLs rather defeats the purpose of using a URL shortening
> service in the first place; but, if that is what you feel is effective,
> then by all means, do so. You are the master of your posts and you have
> the right to post them using whatever methods and formating
Tim Harig writes:
> I question first whether most tinyurl links are really of such an
> intransient nature that they need to be long lasting. I personally use
> them most when writing paper notes. They only need to last long enough
> for me, or whoever I made the note for, to get back to them.
On 2010-09-20, Tim Harig wrote:
> On 2010-09-20, Seebs wrote:
>> On 2010-09-20, Tim Harig wrote:
>>> If you want this behavior by default, you can easily wrap urlview
>>> to automatically add the prefix.
>>
>> True, but since my news reading is not on the machine my web browser is
>> on,
On 2010-09-20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:46:38 +, Tim Harig wrote:
>
>>> I'm not particularly convinced that these are *significant* complaints
>>> about URL-shorteners. But I will say, of the last couple hundred links
>>> I've followed from Usenet posts, precisely zero
On 2010-09-20, Seebs wrote:
> On 2010-09-20, Tim Harig wrote:
>> 1. Don't bother to manually paste when you can use something like urlview
>> to lauch directly.
>
> I don't know that this would actually be better than what I currently do,
> which is grab text and middle-click in another wind
In message , Philip
Semanchuk wrote:
> Some email systems still insert hard line breaks around the 72 or 80
> column mark and as a result long URLs get broken.
That’s why content transfer encodings (quoted-printable, base64) are a
standard part of MIME.
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:46:38 +, Tim Harig wrote:
>> I'm not particularly convinced that these are *significant* complaints
>> about URL-shorteners. But I will say, of the last couple hundred links
>> I've followed from Usenet posts, precisely zero of them were through
>> URL redirectors. If
On 2010-09-20, Tim Harig wrote:
> 1. Don't bother to manually paste when you can use something like urlview
> to lauch directly.
I don't know that this would actually be better than what I currently do,
which is grab text and middle-click in another window.
> If you want this behavio
On 2010-09-20, Seebs wrote:
> On 2010-09-20, Tim Harig wrote:
>> On 2010-09-20, Seebs wrote:
>>> * No hint as to what site you'll be getting redirected to.
>
>> Tinyurl, in particular, allows you to preview the url if you choose to do
>> so. Other URL shortning services have a similar feature.
On 2010-09-20, Tim Harig wrote:
> On 2010-09-20, Seebs wrote:
>> * No hint as to what site you'll be getting redirected to.
> Tinyurl, in particular, allows you to preview the url if you choose to do
> so. Other URL shortning services have a similar feature.
I have no idea how. If I see a "ti
On 2010-09-20, Seebs wrote:
> On 2010-09-20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:16:49 -0700, Aahz wrote:
>>> Please don't use tinyurl -- it's opaque and provides zero help to anyone
>>> who might later want to look it up (and also no accessibility if tinyurl
>>> ever goes down). At
On 2010-09-20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:16:49 -0700, Aahz wrote:
>> Please don't use tinyurl -- it's opaque and provides zero help to anyone
>> who might later want to look it up (and also no accessibility if tinyurl
>> ever goes down). At the very least, include the origin
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:16:49 -0700, Aahz wrote:
> Please don't use tinyurl -- it's opaque and provides zero help to anyone
> who might later want to look it up (and also no accessibility if tinyurl
> ever goes down). At the very least, include the original URL for
> reference.
Do you have someth
In article ,
Philip Semanchuk wrote:
>
>Some email systems still insert hard line breaks around the 72 or 80
>column mark and as a result long URLs get broken. I hope anyone on this
>list would be able to surgically repair a broken URL, but I email plenty
>of people who can't and tinyurl & frie
On Sep 19, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Xavier Ho wrote:
> On 20 September 2010 07:59, Ken Watford
>
>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Not that I disagree with you, but you might find this helpful:
>> http://tinyurl.com/preview.php
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>
>
> I don't think the O
In message , Aahz wrote:
> Please don't use tinyurl -- it's opaque and provides zero help to anyone
> who might later want to look it up (and also no accessibility if tinyurl
> ever goes down). At the very least, include the original URL for
> reference.
+1 from someone who has seen URL-shorteni
On 20 September 2010 07:59, Ken Watford
> wrote:
>
> Not that I disagree with you, but you might find this helpful:
> http://tinyurl.com/preview.php
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
I don't think the OP wants a preview feature. The fact that you still have
to go throu
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Aahz wrote:
> In article ,
> geremy condra wrote:
>>On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:35 PM, patrick mcnameeking
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been working with Python now for about a year using it primarily for
>>> scripting in the Puredata graphical programming environment. I'
In article ,
geremy condra wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:35 PM, patrick mcnameeking
> wrote:
>>
>> I've been working with Python now for about a year using it primarily for
>> scripting in the Puredata graphical programming environment. I'm working on
>> a project where I have been given a 100
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