Re: Design Ideals Goals Python 3 - Forest for the trees

2010-12-26 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Dec 26, 5:34 am, Alice Bevan–McGregor wrote: > > I've never really attempted to use JIT optimizers due to the fact that > all of my development and production environments are 64-bit, and I > haven't found one yet that supports 64-bit properly.  Relying on dead > projects, however, is an issue

Re: Design Ideals Goals Python 3 - Forest for the trees

2010-12-26 Thread Alice Bevan–McGregor
So do the new changes(to the GIL) nullify concerns raised by David Beazely here http://dabeaz.com/python/UnderstandingGIL.pdf Ah, good catch. I had watched the recorded presentation some time ago. Yes, the rewritten GIL should alleviate those problems. Instead of simply releasing and re-acqu

Re: Design Ideals Goals Python 3 - Forest for the trees

2010-12-25 Thread flebber
On Dec 26, 4:56 pm, Alice Bevan–McGregor wrote: > > I was interested in what the design goals/philosphy was of Python 3 > > from a birds eye view, forest for the trees approach. > > I think I can safely point to the Zen of Python[1] as many of the > points therein directly apply to the simplifiati

Re: Design Ideals Goals Python 3 - Forest for the trees

2010-12-25 Thread Alice Bevan–McGregor
I was interested in what the design goals/philosphy was of Python 3 from a birds eye view, forest for the trees approach. I think I can safely point to the Zen of Python[1] as many of the points therein directly apply to the simplifiation, clarification, and goals of Python 3. Most notably:

Re: Design Ideals Goals Python 3 - Forest for the trees

2010-12-25 Thread Tim Harig
On 2010-12-26, flebber wrote: > I was hoping someone could shed some (articles, links) in regards > python 3 design ideals. I was searching guido's blog which has his > overarching view of Python from an early development perspective > http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/pythons-design-phil

Design Ideals Goals Python 3 - Forest for the trees

2010-12-25 Thread flebber
Hi I was hoping someone could shed some (articles, links) in regards python 3 design ideals. I was searching guido's blog which has his overarching view of Python from an early development perspective http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/pythons-design-philosophy.html . I was interested in