Re: Defamation

2015-10-23 Thread John O'Hagan
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:19:14 +0200 Laura Creighton wrote: > One thing to recall is that 'who/what can be defamed' > varies a lot. In Sweden you cannot defame a corporation. The > defamation regulations in the Penal Code only apply to private > individuals. If you ca

Re: Defamation

2015-10-23 Thread John O'Hagan
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:19:14 +0200 Laura Creighton wrote: > One thing to recall is that 'who/what can be defamed' > varies a lot. In Sweden you cannot defame a corporation. The > defamation regulations in the Penal Code only apply to private > individuals. If you ca

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
ght, then >> removing posts sets a dangerous precedent of obeying laws in foreign >> countries that don't apply. > > For better or worse, that's not how defamation law works. Generally, > the defaming is regarded as happening where the material is read, i.e. >

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 22 October 2015 at 12:36, Laura Creighton wrote: > > The UK libel reform act of 2013, I see, may be responsible for > the decline in libel tourism. > http://www.libelreform.org/ Yes I think so. From Wikipedia: """ A court does not have jurisdiction to hear and determine any action, unless the

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
The UK libel reform act of 2013, I see, may be responsible for the decline in libel tourism. http://www.libelreform.org/ Laura -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
ring them off? One thing to recall is that 'who/what can be defamed' varies a lot. In Sweden you cannot defame a corporation. The defamation regulations in the Penal Code only apply to private individuals. If you cannot bleed, you cannot be defamed. In certain situations the Swed

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Oscar Benjamin
e hosted in a >>> country under the jurisdiction of European Law. If I'm right, then >>> removing posts sets a dangerous precedent of obeying laws in foreign >>> countries that don't apply. >> >> For better or worse, that's not how defamation law works

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread John O'Hagan
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:05:04 +1100 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM, John O'Hagan [...] > > > > For better or worse, that's not how defamation law works. Generally, > > the defaming is regarded as happening where the material is read, &g

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Chris Angelico
'm right, then >> removing posts sets a dangerous precedent of obeying laws in foreign >> countries that don't apply. > > For better or worse, that's not how defamation law works. Generally, > the defaming is regarded as happening where the material is read, i.e. >

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread John O'Hagan
n > countries that don't apply. For better or worse, that's not how defamation law works. Generally, the defaming is regarded as happening where the material is read, i.e. at the point of download. The location of upload, hosting etc is irrelevant, although the uploader and the host can

Re: Defamation

2015-10-21 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
> According to Ralf, python.org is hosted in the Netherlands, One could change that. > I want to buy peanut butter, but I don't, because I know that when it comes > to peanut butter I have no self-control and would eat the entire jar in a > single sitting. So I simply don't buy it in the first p

Re: Defamation

2015-10-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/21/2015 2:53 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:30:35 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:44 am, Laura Creighton wrote: No, we are removing them because we want to. Who are "we"? You're not talking about *you and me*. Anybody who was inv

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:30:35 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:44 am, Laura Creighton wrote: >> No, we are removing them because we want to. > >Who are "we"? You're not talking about *you and me*. Anybody who was involved in deciding whether or not to remove the

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:44 am, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >>On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:28 am, Laura Creighton wrote: >> >>> Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a >>> year ago we were requested to re

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:28 am, Laura Creighton wrote: > >> Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a >> year ago we were requested to remove, and did. European Law may >> require us to do so. I

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Steven D'Aprano : > On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:28 am, Laura Creighton wrote: > > > Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a > > year ago we were requested to remove, and did. European Law may > > require us to do so. I checked, and this article wasn't one on > > our li

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:28 am, Laura Creighton wrote: > Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a > year ago we were requested to remove, and did. European Law may > require us to do so. I checked, and this article wasn't one on > our list, which is why we missed this

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Laura Creighton : > Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a > year ago we were requested to remove, and did. European Law may > require us to do so. I checked, and this article wasn't one on > our list, which is why we missed this one. Note that the "next in thre

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Tim Golden
On 19/10/2015 17:29, Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:36:37 -0600, Michael Torrie writes: On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list wrote: Please remove the page That page is just spam that someone

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: >>Even if the page were to be removed, the same content has already been >>posted to myriad news servers the world over, many of which archive >>all posts. There's no way to remove it from everywhere. >> >>ChrisA > > Actually, this one was pa

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:36:37 -0600, Michael Torrie writes: >On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list >> wrote: >>> Please remove the page >> >> That page is just spam that someone sent to the newsgroup/mailing >> li

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:14:14 +1100, Chris Angelico writes: >On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list > wrote: >> Please remove the page >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/678498.html > >That page is just spam that someone sent to the ne

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ian Kelly : > Which is the same thing the OP was told the last time he posted a > removal request publicly to this list. I do note that the subject of > the previous request appears to have since been removed. > > I've taken the liberty of forwarding this request on to > python-list-owner, on t

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list >> wrote: >>> Please remove the page >> >> That page is just spam that someone sent to the newsgroup/mailing >> list. You can ign

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Michael Torrie
On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list > wrote: >> Please remove the page > > That page is just spam that someone sent to the newsgroup/mailing > list. You can ignore it, same as the rest of us do. > > Even if the page were to

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list wrote: > Please remove the page > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/678498.html That page is just spam that someone sent to the newsgroup/mailing list. You can ignore it, same as the rest of us do. Even if t

Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread gaini2002--- via Python-list
Please remove the page https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/678498.html Thank You Gabriele Silvagni -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread Paul Arrington
On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 18:37:33 +0200, silvagni wrote: > Please remove the page: > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html > > Thank You Gabriele Silvagni This is a primarily a "Usenet" group, (Google that term), and is hosted by a distributed network of servers, a

Re: Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/04/2015 17:37, silvagni wrote: Please remove the page: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html Thank You Gabriele Silvagni I mark all of these as offensive on google groups. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what yo

Re: Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread Ben Finney
silvagni writes: > Please remove the page: > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html > > Thank You > Gabriele Silvagni You have given no motivation for us to do so. A bald request to remove a message is unlikely to be actioned. Also, you are addressing the wrong

Re: Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/3/2015 12:37 PM, silvagni wrote: Please remove the page: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html Thank You Gabriele Silvagni You can try sending mail to python-list-ow...@python.org, but it will not do much good. Even if a post could be removed from pyth

Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread silvagni
Please remove the page: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html Thank You Gabriele Silvagni -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list