Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/12/2013 01:38, Roy Smith wrote: In article , Mark Lawrence wrote: My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. "I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of making Py

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/12/2013 04:32, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-12-03, Roy Smith wrote: "I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of making Python 3 the default version and having everybody be cool with unicode." I'm cool with Unicode as long as

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 04:32:13 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-12-03, Roy Smith wrote: > >> "I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the >> goal, before this decade is out, of making Python 3 the default version >> and having everybody be cool with unicode." > > I'm

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/02/2013 07:22 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2013 4:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: jmf is certainly a troll No, he is a person who discovered a minor performance regression in the FSR, which we fixed. Unfortunately, he then continued for a year with a strange troll-like anti-FSR crusade. Bu

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-12-03, Roy Smith wrote: > "I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the > goal, before this decade is out, of making Python 3 the default version > and having everybody be cool with unicode." I'm cool with Unicode as long as it "just works" without me ever havin

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs

2013-12-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/2/2013 6:11 PM, Ben Finney wrote: This forum doesn't have authorised moderators, At least some PSF mailing lists have 1 or more PSF-authorized moderators (currently 4 for python-list) who pretty thanklessly check the initial posts of new subscribers and posts flagged by the spam detect

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/2/2013 4:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: jmf is certainly a troll No, he is a person who discovered a minor performance regression in the FSR, which we fixed. Unfortunately, he then continued for a year with a strange troll-like anti-FSR crusade. But his posts in the Unicode handling thread

Pythonista Goals [was Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs]

2013-12-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/02/2013 05:38 PM, Roy Smith wrote: Mark Lawrence wrote: My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. "I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of making Python 3 the de

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Mark Lawrence wrote: > My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask > what you can do for our language. "I believe that Pythonistas should commit themselves to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of making Python 3 the default version and havin

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs

2013-12-02 Thread Ben Finney
Mark Lawrence writes: > […] the hypocrisy that continues to be shown gets right up both of my > nostrils, hence I couldn't resist the above, greatly toned down > response. This will surely give an indication of how strongly I feel > on issues such as this. Rules are rules to be applied evenly, no

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 12/2/13 4:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/02/2013 12:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/12/2013 20:26, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2013 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: the worst loser in the world Mark, I consider your continual direct personal attacks on other posters to be a violation of

Re: Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 02/12/2013 21:25, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/02/2013 12:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/12/2013 20:26, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2013 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: the worst loser in the world Mark, I consider your continual direct personal attacks on other posters to be a violation o

Code of Conduct, Trolls, and Thankless Jobs [was Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly]

2013-12-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/02/2013 12:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/12/2013 20:26, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/2/2013 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: the worst loser in the world Mark, I consider your continual direct personal attacks on other posters to be a violation of the PSF Code of Conduct, which *does* ap