On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> You don't automatically get nice objects with attributes named after
>> columns, but neither will SQLAlchemy unless you're doing the
>> equivalent of "select * from". Example:
>>
> session.query(Student).all()
Chris Angelico writes:
> You don't automatically get nice objects with attributes named after
> columns, but neither will SQLAlchemy unless you're doing the
> equivalent of "select * from". Example:
>
session.query(Student).all()
> [<__main__.Student object at 0x7fc2de3fc290>, <__main__.Stud
Chris Angelico writes:
> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:12 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote:
>> You are conflating two different layers, core and ORM. ORM relationships can
>> be declared either on the parent or on the child, it's up to your taste.
>
> Not sure why that's distinguishable. If I have two tables l
On 2015-05-22 15:03, Laura Creighton wrote:
> I don't know anything about Camelot.
Am I the only one who is disappointed that nobody has claimed
"Camelot...it's only a model"? :-)
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On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> I like SQLAlchemy because:
>
> - it quotes for me, avoiding an infinity of pain and injection risk
>
> - it presents results as nice objects with attributes named after columns
>
> - it lets me write SQL queries as nice parameterised Pyt
On 22May2015 21:12, Lele Gaifax wrote:
Chris Angelico writes:
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote:
Laura Creighton writes:
In my corner of the world, everybody uses SQL.
[...]
The people who have tried SQLAlchemy really didn't like it, and of course
the people who haven't tr
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:12 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> SQLAlchemy has its uses, and it does solve a number of
>> issues in reasonably clean ways, but I don't like a few of its facets,
>> including its peculiar way of doing foreign key relationships. (You
>> put a foreig
In a message of Fri, 22 May 2015 21:52:27 +0200, Christian Gollwitzer writes:
>Am 22.05.15 um 15:03 schrieb Laura Creighton:
>> I don't know anything about Camelot. Tkinter produces widgets that are
>> in no way as pretty graphically as is expected nowadays -- or indeed for
>> at least 15 years.
Am 22.05.15 um 15:03 schrieb Laura Creighton:
I don't know anything about Camelot. Tkinter produces widgets that are
in no way as pretty graphically as is expected nowadays -- or indeed for
at least 15 years. If this matters to you -- or if you are building for
customers if it matters to them,
Chris Angelico writes:
> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote:
>> Laura Creighton writes:
>>
>>> In my corner of the world, everybody uses SQL.
>>> [...]
>>> The people who have tried SQLAlchemy really didn't like it, and of course
>>> the people who haven't tried it do what their
In a message of Fri, 22 May 2015 19:24:30 +0200, Lele Gaifax writes:
>Laura Creighton writes:
>
>> In my corner of the world, everybody uses SQL.
>> [...]
>> The people who have tried SQLAlchemy really didn't like it, and of course
>> the people who haven't tried it do what their friends do, as us
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> Laura Creighton writes:
>
>> In my corner of the world, everybody uses SQL.
>> [...]
>> The people who have tried SQLAlchemy really didn't like it, and of course
>> the people who haven't tried it do what their friends do, as usual.
>
> If the
Laura Creighton writes:
> In my corner of the world, everybody uses SQL.
> [...]
> The people who have tried SQLAlchemy really didn't like it, and of course
> the people who haven't tried it do what their friends do, as usual.
If these sentences are related, you must live in a very strange corne
El 22/05/15 10:24, Mark Lawrence escribió:
On 22/05/2015 08:59, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I want to learn a lot of things. For example writing database and
graphical applications. For database I decided on SQLAlchemy and GUI
on Tkinter. In principal I want to write Python 3 applications.
I came ac
On 22/05/2015 08:59, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I want to learn a lot of things. For example writing database and
graphical applications. For database I decided on SQLAlchemy and GUI
on Tkinter. In principal I want to write Python 3 applications.
I came across Camelot. As I understand it, this is so
In a message of Fri, 22 May 2015 15:11:03 +0200, Cecil Westerhof writes:
>I know SQL. Until now I almost always did everything with SQL. The
>problem is that you are expected not to use it. With Python you are
>supposed to work with SQLAlchemy and with Java Hibernate.
I think you have got the wron
On 22/05/2015 14:11, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> Op Friday 22 May 2015 14:38 CEST schreef Dan Sommers:
>
>> On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:59:02 +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>
>>> Would Camelot be a good tool to get me started, or can I better
>>> bite the bullet and just start with Tkinter and SQLAlchemy?
Op Friday 22 May 2015 14:38 CEST schreef Dan Sommers:
> On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:59:02 +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>> Would Camelot be a good tool to get me started, or can I better
>> bite the bullet and just start with Tkinter and SQLAlchemy?
>
> Bite the bullet and learn SQL.
I know SQL. Unt
I don't know anything about Camelot. Tkinter produces widgets that are
in no way as pretty graphically as is expected nowadays -- or indeed for
at least 15 years. If this matters to you -- or if you are building for
customers if it matters to them, then Tkinter is not a good choice.
Widget libra
Dan Sommers writes:
> On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:59:02 +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
> > Would Camelot be a good tool to get me started, or can I better bite
> > the bullet and just start with Tkinter and SQLAlchemy?
>
> Bite the bullet and learn SQL.
Good advice in the long term. However, one can
On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:59:02 +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> Would Camelot be a good tool to get me started, or can I better bite
> the bullet and just start with Tkinter and SQLAlchemy?
Bite the bullet and learn SQL.
SQLAlchemy -> Database :: Python -> Assembly Language.
HTH,
Dan
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I want to learn a lot of things. For example writing database and
graphical applications. For database I decided on SQLAlchemy and GUI
on Tkinter. In principal I want to write Python 3 applications.
I came across Camelot. As I understand it, this is something to write
graphical database applicatio
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