Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Nick Maclaren wrote: > Not at all. "Precision" has been used to indicate the number of > digits after the decimal point for at least 60 years, Not only, remember: Computer memories can't think in powers of ten. > probably 100; in 40 years of IT and using dozens of programming > languages, I ha

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Nick Maclaren
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ziga Seilnacht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |> |> There was a recent bug report identical to your complaints, which |> was closed as invalid. The rationale for closing it was that things |> like: |> |> print ("a, bc", "de f,", "gh), i") |> |> would be extremely

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Ziga Seilnacht
Nick Maclaren wrote: > Well, it's not felt necessary to distinguish those at top level, so > why should it be when they are in a sequence? Well, this probably wasn't the best example, see the links below for a better one. > But this whole thing is getting ridiculous. The current implementation

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Nick Maclaren
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |> |> > The use of different precisions for the two cases is not, however, |> > and it is that I was and am referring to. |> |> You mistake "precision" with "display". Not at all. "Precision" has been used to indi

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Nick Maclaren
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ziga Seilnacht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |> |> > I think that you should. Where does it say that tuple's __str__ is |> > the same as its __repr__? |> > |> > The obvious interpretation of the documentation is that a sequence |> > type's __str__ would call __str

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Ziga Seilnacht
Nick Maclaren wrote: > I think that you should. Where does it say that tuple's __str__ is > the same as its __repr__? > > The obvious interpretation of the documentation is that a sequence > type's __str__ would call __str__ on each sub-object, and its __repr__ > would call __repr__. How would y

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Nick Maclaren wrote: > The use of different precisions for the two cases is not, however, > and it is that I was and am referring to. You mistake "precision" with "display". Regards, Björn -- BOFH excuse #12: dry joints on cable plug -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Nick Maclaren wrote: > I think that you should. Big words. > Where does it say that tuple's __str__ is the same as its > __repr__? Where does it say that a tuple's __str__ does not call its contents' __repr__? > The obvious interpretation of the documentation is that a sequence > type's __str

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Nick Maclaren
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |> Nick Maclaren wrote: |> |> > The use of different precisions for the two cases is not, however, |> > and it is that I was and am referring to. |> |> that's by design, of course. maybe you should look "repr" up in the

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Nick Maclaren wrote: > The use of different precisions for the two cases is not, however, > and it is that I was and am referring to. that's by design, of course. maybe you should look "repr" up in the documentation ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Nick Maclaren
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |> Nick Maclaren wrote: |> |> > Ah! That explains it. I would call that reason intermediate |> > between rational and an artifact of the way the code has evolved! |> |> Which code has evolved? Those precision probl

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Nick Maclaren wrote: > Ah! That explains it. I would call that reason intermediate > between rational and an artifact of the way the code has evolved! Which code has evolved? Those precision problems are inherent problems of the way floats are stored in memory. Regards, Björn -- BOFH excus

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Nick Maclaren
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard Brodie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |> |> When you do print on a tuple it doesn't recursively |> call str(), so you get the repr representations. Ah! That explains it. I would call that reason intermediate between rational and an artifact of the way the

Re: Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Richard Brodie
"Nick Maclaren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > x = (1.234567890125, 1.2345678901255) > print x > print x[0], x[1] > (1.234567890124, 1.2345678901254999) 1.23456789012 1.23456789013 > > Is there a rational reason, or is that simply an artifact of the

Bizarre floating-point output

2007-01-08 Thread Nick Maclaren
x = (1.234567890125, 1.2345678901255) print x print x[0], x[1] >>> (1.234567890124, 1.2345678901254999) >>> 1.23456789012 1.23456789013 Is there a rational reason, or is that simply an artifact of the way that the code has evolved? It is clearly not a bug :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. -- h