On 02/20/2013 04:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>[...]
> Or if your ISP provides Usenet access, you can use a News client to read it
> via comp.lang.python, or gmane.comp.python.general. If you don't have a
> News client, there are various free ones available, starting with
> Thunderbird.
I think v
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:01 AM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Awsome Python - chained exceptions
On 20/02/2013 11:50, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> [...alternatives to Google...]
&g
On 20/02/2013 11:50, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...alternatives to Google...]
Or if your ISP provides Usenet access, you can use a News client to read it
via comp.lang.python, or gmane.comp.python.general.
And if it doesn't, you can get free Usenet access that includes most of
the text-only gro
alex23 wrote:
> On Feb 20, 3:14 am, rusi wrote:
>> How do you "revert to old interface"?
>> So far I have managed to keep to the old by
>> - logging out of gmail
>> - reload GG -- now the choice to revert should appear
>>
>> It seems everyone does not get that option
>
> In an amazing piece of s
On Feb 20, 3:14 am, rusi wrote:
> How do you "revert to old interface"?
> So far I have managed to keep to the old by
> - logging out of gmail
> - reload GG -- now the choice to revert should appear
>
> It seems everyone does not get that option
In an amazing piece of software engineering, you ne
On Feb 19, 7:18 am, alex23 wrote:
> On Feb 18, 3:51 pm, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> > I apologize for this doubling of my messages and i can assure you i
> > don't do this intentionally. Proper netiquette is very important to me.
> > These double posts are another unfortunate side-effect of using the
On 02/18/2013 07:18 PM, alex23 wrote:
>[...]
> Weird, I'm using GG too and not seeing any doubling of my messages. I
> have reverted to using the old interface, though, so it might be a
> side-effect of the new version they're hyping, which does seem to have
> been designed by Satan himself (the wa
On Feb 18, 3:51 pm, Rick Johnson wrote:
> I apologize for this doubling of my messages and i can assure you i
> don't do this intentionally. Proper netiquette is very important to me.
> These double posts are another unfortunate side-effect of using the
> buggy Google Groups web-face to read/write
On 2/18/2013 1:32 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
2. When positing a new message i must enter my email address and username each
time. The forms are auto-filled for replys but not for new messages. Go figure!
Using the newsreader interface, I get 1 email message per list to verify
the email address.
yahoo.com> writes:
> On 02/17/2013 11:10 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > For at least the 10th time [...]
>
> And for at least the 11th time, you are wrong. There are reasons
> (not applicable to everyone but applicable to many) for using
> Google Groups, among others it is more accessible and easie
On 02/17/2013 11:10 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 2/18/2013 12:51 AM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> > if you (or anyone else) would be kind enough to recommend an
> > alternative to this gawd awful software [google groups],
> ? i'm all ears. My expectations at minimum are:
>
> For at least the 10th time,
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> Terry Reedy udel.edu> writes:
>> For at least the 10th time, there is little to no excuse for reading and
>> writing python-list thru google-groups. The news.gmane.org mirror has
>> multiple interfaces:
>
> [Sent from gmane.comp.python.genera
Terry Reedy udel.edu> writes:
> For at least the 10th time, there is little to no excuse for reading and
> writing python-list thru google-groups. The news.gmane.org mirror has
> multiple interfaces:
[Sent from gmane.comp.python.general]
Yes you have mentioned this before and for some reason i
On 2/18/2013 12:51 AM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> if you (or anyone else) would be kind enough to recommend an
> alternative to this gawd awful software [google groups],
? i'm all ears. My expectations at minimum are:
For at least the 10th time, there is little to no excuse for reading and
writing p
On Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:35:24 PM UTC-6, alex23 wrote:
> Any chance you can stop sending to both comp.lang.python _and_ the
> python-list, given the former is a mirror of the later?
I apologize for this doubling of my messages and i can assure you i don't do
this intentionally. Proper net
On 02/17/2013 08:35 PM, alex23 wrote:
On Feb 15, 5:51 pm, Rick Johnson wrote:
[Ranting nonsense that's appearing in duplicate on usenet]
Any chance you can stop sending to both comp.lang.python _and_ the
python-list, given the former is a mirror of the later?
It might be easier to just tell
On Feb 15, 5:51 pm, Rick Johnson wrote:
[Ranting nonsense that's appearing in duplicate on usenet]
Any chance you can stop sending to both comp.lang.python _and_ the
python-list, given the former is a mirror of the later?
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On 14.02.13 08:39, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Here is one example of using raise to re-raise an exception you have just
caught:
import errno
paths = ["here", "there", "somewhere else"]
for location in paths:
filename = os.path.join(location, "prefs.ini")
try:
f = open(filename)
Am 15.02.2013 08:51, schrieb Rick Johnson:
"How could a line in the "try" block ever be considered offensive?"
My suggestion of "offensive" does not imply ignorance on /my/ part[...]
Well, it seems to imply that you are not aware of the subtle difference
between "offending" and "offensive".
On Friday, February 15, 2013 12:18:17 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
> And yet it is still a perfect example of how a line of
> code inside a 'try' block can indeed be offensive.
Oh nice try, but we are not fooled by your straw-man. My exact statement that
provoked this whole thing was:
"""
Q1:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:01:51 AM UTC-6, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> try:
>> rrick.go_and_[edit]_yourself()
>> finally:
>> rrick.get_lost()
>
> Oops, you forgot to catch "FloatingPointError" and so your code choked
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:01:51 AM UTC-6, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
> [...]
>
> try:
> rrick.go_and_[edit]_yourself()
> finally:
> rrick.get_lost()
Oops, you forgot to catch "FloatingPointError" and so your code choked in the
try block -- typical newbie mistake.
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On Feb 14, 5:00 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
> 2. If you're going to criticize someone for their spelling, at least
> be sure to spell correctly the name of the person you are addressing.
> You've consistently misspelled Steven's surname in several posts that
> I've noticed.
The correct spelling conflict
Am 13.02.2013 um 17:14 schrieb Rick Johnson:
Q1: How could a line in the "try" block ever be considered
offensive? Because it throws an error?
try:
rrick.go_and_fuck_yourself()
finally:
rrick.get_lost()
See, wasn't that difficult, was it? :D
Are you serious?
No, I just coul
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:01:45 PM UTC-6, Zero Piraeus wrote:
>
>> You could call them PyW00ts.
>
> +1 on the name
> -INFINITY on the execution
>
> Actually i am happy that DeAprano used the unintuitive tag now. Bad enough to
> use an
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:10:42 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
Quoting Rick Johnson:
>> Q2: Why would the line in the try block be shown as a "feature" of
>> the traceback when the whole intent of exception handling is to hide
>> the error in the try block! If you want to raise the exception in t
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:58:46 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> No, the offending (not offensive) line is "return items[index-1]",
>> which doesn't feature in your traceback at all.
>
> Do you realize that you are quoting DeAprano
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:14:34 AM UTC-6, Rick Johnson wrote:
> The proper method of using a forward compatible print
> function is by /importing/ the feature.
>
>from future import print_function
Urm... of course the proper /PROPER/ way would be to NOT throw an import error!
f
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:58:46 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> >On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:15:29 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >> If you've ever written an exception handler, you've probably written a
> >> *buggy* excepti
On Feb 13, 2013 12:00 AM, "Chris Angelico" wrote:
> Which word? "we"? I'm not entirely sure, given that non-monospaced
> fonts get in the way. Normally people would put exactly as many >
carets/tildes as there are letters in the word, but aligning the text
> in a mono font puts the carets under "
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
>On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:15:29 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> If you've ever written an exception handler, you've probably written a
>> *buggy* exception handler:
>>
>> def getitem(items, index):
>> # One-based indexing.
>>
On 02/12/2013 07:47 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> ...Oh Steven, if you only knew how we interpreted the "Oops!", more like
> "Doh!".
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
> Got any more bright ideas DeAprano? (Oh gawd tha
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:01:45 PM UTC-6, Zero Piraeus wrote:
> You could call them PyW00ts.
+1 on the name
-INFINITY on the execution
Actually i am happy that DeAprano used the unintuitive tag now. Bad enough to
use an unintuitive tag. Worse to misspell it. But it would been a crime to
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:15:29 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> [snip inflammatory remarks]
> I thought I'd present a few of Python's more
> awesome features, starting with exception contexts.
Well that's great idea, however, in order to find this very "valuable"
information the searche
On 02/12/2013 10:01 AM, Zero Piraeus wrote:
On 12 February 2013 02:15, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
As an antidote to the ill-informed negativity of Ranting Rick's
illusionary "PyWarts", I thought I'd present a few of Python's more
awesome features [...]
You could call them PyW00ts.
+1 QOTW
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On 12 February 2013 02:15, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> As an antidote to the ill-informed negativity of Ranting Rick's
> illusionary "PyWarts", I thought I'd present a few of Python's more
> awesome features [...]
You could call them PyW00ts.
-[]z.
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On 2/12/2013 1:15 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
As an antidote to the ill-informed negativity of Ranting Rick's
illusionary "PyWarts", I thought I'd present a few of Python's more
awesome features, starting with exception contexts.
You do not need Rick to justify such an informative post.
If you
As an antidote to the ill-informed negativity of Ranting Rick's
illusionary "PyWarts", I thought I'd present a few of Python's more
awesome features, starting with exception contexts.
If you've ever written an exception handler, you've probably written a
*buggy* exception handler:
def getitem
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