Re: Off-topic: Usenet archiving history

2009-06-14 Thread David Bolen
Ben Finney writes: > David Bolen writes: > >> Individual messages could include an Expires: header if they wished, > > Since we're already well off-topic: NNTP, HTTP, and email, and probably > other protocols as well, all deal with messages. They are all consistent > in defining a message [0] as

Re: Off-topic: Usenet archiving history

2009-06-14 Thread Ben Finney
David Bolen writes: > Individual messages could include an Expires: header if they wished, Since we're already well off-topic: NNTP, HTTP, and email, and probably other protocols as well, all deal with messages. They are all consistent in defining a message [0] as having *exactly one* header. E

Re: Off-topic: Usenet archiving history

2009-06-14 Thread David Bolen
Dennis Lee Bieber writes: > Either way -- it was still a change from "expiration at some > date"... Though since (Netcom/Mindspring)Earthlink seems to have > subcontracted NNTP service to Giganews (or some such) it wouldn't > surprise me to learn that service also keeps a mammoth archive...

Off-topic: Usenet archiving history (was Re: FW: [Tutor] Multi-Threading and KeyboardInterrupt)

2009-06-13 Thread Aahz
In article , Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > As for the use of X-Noarchive headers... Back before Google, most >NNTP servers had automatic expiration of messages (on my ISP at the >time, the binary groups expired after 24 hours!, most messages expired >after one or two weeks). I never used X-N

Re: [off-topic] Usenet

2008-05-17 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, hdante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >How can I access Usenet without using Google Groups ? (my ISP doesn't >have a NNTP server). Do you recommend doing so ? If you'd like an ISP with a decent news server, I highly recommend panix.com >What's your prefered news rea

Re: [off-topic] Usenet

2008-05-15 Thread Ben Finney
"Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "John Salerno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:58:12 -0400 > | "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > | > gmane.comp.python.general > | > | So that's the same as c.l.p.? > > It is the sam

Re: [off-topic] Usenet

2008-05-14 Thread Terry Reedy
"John Salerno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:58:12 -0400 | "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > gmane.comp.python.general | > | > which is where I am answering this from. Works great. | | So that's the same as c.l.p.? It is the sa

Re: [off-topic] Usenet

2008-05-14 Thread John Salerno
On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:58:12 -0400 "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Duncan Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | I also recommend Gmane which provides a free news server for most mailing > | lists: mailing lists are a lot more manageable when gatew

Re: [off-topic] Usenet

2008-05-14 Thread Terry Reedy
"Duncan Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | I also recommend Gmane which provides a free news server for most mailing | lists: mailing lists are a lot more manageable when gatewayed into a news | server. If you just want to access comp.lang.python I think you'll f

Re: [off-topic] Usenet

2008-05-14 Thread Duncan Booth
hdante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I access Usenet without using Google Groups ? (my ISP doesn't > have a NNTP server). Do you recommend doing so ? Yes, even those ISP's who do have a news server often seem to make a mess of maintaining it. I use news.individual.net which seems to do a

Re: [off-topic] Usenet

2008-05-13 Thread Ben Finney
hdante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How can I access Usenet without using Google Groups ? (my ISP doesn't > have a NNTP server). Complain to your ISP; let them know they have a paying customer who isn't getting an essential internet service. (No, this likely won't change *your* situation, and y

[off-topic] Usenet

2008-05-13 Thread hdante
Hello, How can I access Usenet without using Google Groups ? (my ISP doesn't have a NNTP server). Do you recommend doing so ? What's your prefered news reader ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list