Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-19 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/18/2016 9:22 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Anyone know one for deleting all responses to a troll post? Thunderbird has 'ignore thread' on its context menu. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-19 Thread Jon Ribbens
On 2016-02-19, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 02/02/2016 07:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > > a bunch of garbage. > > *sigh* > > Time to update my procmail filters... > > Anyone know one for deleting all responses to a troll post? Well for this particular imbecile, just blocking posts without any lower-ca

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-19 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/02/2016 07:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: a bunch of garbage. *sigh* Time to update my procmail filters... Anyone know one for deleting all responses to a troll post? -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-18 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > WxPython is not ported either, much to my chagrin. If wxPython "Classic" had just been ported to Python 3, I'm sure it would be all done by now. But it was decided to rebuild wxPython from the ground up instead. Last I've heard, people gener

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Am 16.02.16 um 03:02 schrieb Rick Johnson: >> >> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 1:51:35 AM UTC-6, John Ladasky wrote: >>> >>> I like lazy evaluation. >> >> >> Well, it is a "Pythonic feature" no doubt. > > > > ?? I'm confused. Does Py

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-18 Thread Christian Gollwitzer
Am 16.02.16 um 03:02 schrieb Rick Johnson: On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 1:51:35 AM UTC-6, John Ladasky wrote: I like lazy evaluation. Well, it is a "Pythonic feature" no doubt. ?? I'm confused. Does Python have lazy evaluation? I thought that Python does eager evaluation. At least this

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-15 Thread John Ladasky
On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 6:02:24 PM UTC-8, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 1:51:35 AM UTC-6, John Ladasky wrote: > > Reguarding a migration from Python2 to Pyhton3, John said: > > I had to wait until my favorite packages were ported > > (numpy, scipy, matplotlib, pand

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: >> But once that happened, I moved from Py2 to Py3 years ago >> with scarcely a bump, bruise, or scratch. > > So you have no Python2.x code remaining in your repos? Are > you telling us that you moved *EVERYTHING* to Python3? If > so, i can't im

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-15 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 1:51:35 AM UTC-6, John Ladasky wrote: Reguarding a migration from Python2 to Pyhton3, John said: > I had to wait until my favorite packages were ported > (numpy, scipy, matplotlib, pandas). WxPython is not ported either, much to my chagrin. > But once that happen

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-11 Thread John Ladasky
On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 12:54:41 PM UTC-8, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:02:35 AM UTC-6, John Ladasky wrote: > > > Rick, you don't like Python? > > If i didn't like Python, then i would happily let it self- > destruct, yes? The problem is, i *DO* like Pytho

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-08 Thread Chris Warrick
On 8 February 2016 at 16:53, Random832 wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016, at 10:46, Chris Angelico wrote: >> > I still think we should just retroactively declare 3.5 to be python 5, >> > and then keep going with python 6, 7, etc... >> >> http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html > > Java's

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-08 Thread Random832
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016, at 10:46, Chris Angelico wrote: > > I still think we should just retroactively declare 3.5 to be python 5, > > and then keep going with python 6, 7, etc... > > http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html Java's hardly the only, or even the first, project to drop a v

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:44 AM, Random832 wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016, at 10:40, Ian Kelly wrote: >> Besides, you're forgetting that the whole point of having so many >> backwards incompatible changes in Python 3 in the first place was to >> get them out of the way and not have to do them further

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-08 Thread Random832
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016, at 10:40, Ian Kelly wrote: > Besides, you're forgetting that the whole point of having so many > backwards incompatible changes in Python 3 in the first place was to > get them out of the way and not have to do them further into the > future. Python 4.0 has never been planned t

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:02:35 AM UTC-6, John Ladasky wrote: > >> Rick, you don't like Python? > > If i didn't like Python, then i would happily let it self- > destruct, yes? The problem is, i *DO* like Python. Python2 > was a great

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-08 Thread Jason Swails
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 2:58 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > Would writing a script to figure out whether there are more > statisticians or programmers be a statistician's job or a > programmer's? > ​Yes. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-07 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Rustom Mody writes: >> Data (science) is after all the hot subject >> A programmer moving into that field typically starts with python >> A statistician typically starts R > > There aren't THAT many statisticians out there, compared to programme

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-06 Thread Paul Rubin
Rustom Mody writes: > Data (science) is after all the hot subject > A programmer moving into that field typically starts with python > A statistician typically starts R There aren't THAT many statisticians out there, compared to programmers. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-lis

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-06 Thread Christian Gollwitzer
Am 07.02.16 um 08:04 schrieb Paul Rubin: Steven D'Aprano writes: According to TIOBE, Python's popularity continues to grow: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html I wonder how much of that growth is Python 3 and how much is Python 2. I'm amazed there's still so much

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-06 Thread Rustom Mody
On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 8:04:42 AM UTC+1, Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > According to TIOBE, Python's popularity continues to grow: > > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html > > I wonder how much of that growth is Python 3 and how much is Python

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-06 Thread Paul Rubin
Steven D'Aprano writes: > According to TIOBE, Python's popularity continues to grow: > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html I wonder how much of that growth is Python 3 and how much is Python 2. I'm amazed there's still so much C being done. I meet good programmers a

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sunday 07 February 2016 14:02, INADA Naoki wrote: > Python 3 is a disaster because of incompatibility with Python 2. How is that a disaster? What is your criteria for deciding what is, and isn't, a disaster? According to TIOBE, Python's popularity continues to grow: http://www.tiobe.com/ind

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 2:02 PM, INADA Naoki wrote: > Python 3 is a disaster because of incompatibility with Python 2. Python 3 > itself is not so bad. > We can help disaster recovery by stop using Python 2 as possible. > > Let's stop using legacy Python! > It's not even a disaster. It's fairly ea

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-06 Thread INADA Naoki
Python 3 is a disaster because of incompatibility with Python 2. Python 3 itself is not so bad. We can help disaster recovery by stop using Python 2 as possible. Let's stop using legacy Python! On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 5:54 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:02:35 AM U

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-06 Thread Rick Johnson
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:02:35 AM UTC-6, John Ladasky wrote: > Rick, you don't like Python? If i didn't like Python, then i would happily let it self- destruct, yes? The problem is, i *DO* like Python. Python2 was a great language, but python3 has been a disaster. Heck, even the BDF

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-03 Thread Bernardo Sulzbach
I wonder if anyone besides Mr. Ladasky read through the Great Wall of Email. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-03 Thread Grobu
On 03/02/16 04:26, Rick Johnson wrote: [ ... ] And many children came from the far and wide, and they would pet his snake, and they would play with his snake Didn't know Pedobear had a biographer. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Maier
On 03.02.2016 04:26, Rick Johnson wrote: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO A long, long time a ago, in a sleepy little Scandinavian village, somewhere

Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-03 Thread John Ladasky
Yeah, I know, I shouldn't answer this troll-bait. Rick, you don't like Python? Fine, go program in a language that you do like. There are many to choose from! Meanwhile, Python is satisfying many programmers' needs. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO

2016-02-02 Thread Rick Johnson
[STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO A long, long time a ago, in a sleepy little Scandinavian village, somewhere outside of Stockholm, a wee little boy was born