Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history

2018-04-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-03-25, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Not really. With multiple CPUs, you have the option of running two > distinct OSes in isolation, not merely virtual machines but actual > distinct machines in the same box. Not on any of the multi-CPU motherboards I ever worked with. The CPUs shared SDR

Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history

2018-04-11 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2018-03-25 22:52:59 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:29:07 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > >> >> By the way, multiple CPU machines are different from CPUs with > >> >> multiple cores: > >> >> > >> >> http://smallbusiness.chron.com/multiple-cpu-vs-multicore-33195.html > >> >

Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history

2018-03-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 26 March 2018 12:12:46 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:30:54 -0400, Gene Heskett > > > declaimed the following: > >On Monday 26 March 2018 10:06:36 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > > > >>As I recall, the bootloader on the Raspberry Pi runs on the > >> graphics p

Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history

2018-03-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 26 March 2018 10:06:36 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:02:15 + (UTC), Steven D'Aprano > > declaimed the following: > >Hardware people can probably tell you what it is that CPUs do that > > FPUs and GPUs don't do. Or specialised Bitcoin mining chips. > > Whatever it

Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history

2018-03-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:03:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > At what point does it change from being two CPUs to being one CPU and > one auxiliary processing unit? When someone writes an OS that will run on the "auxiliary processing unit" alone, then it's probably time to start calling it a CPU :

Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history

2018-03-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:29:07 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > > [...] >>> >> By the way, multiple CPU machines are different from CPUs with >>> >> multiple cores: >>> >> >>> >> http://smallbusiness.chron.com/multiple-cpu-vs-multicore-33195.h

Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history

2018-03-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:29:07 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote: [...] >> >> By the way, multiple CPU machines are different from CPUs with >> >> multiple cores: >> >> >> >> http://smallbusiness.chron.com/multiple-cpu-vs-multicore-33195.html >> > >> > Yeah, it was always "multiple CPUs", not "multiple

Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history

2018-03-25 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2018-02-19 12:39:51 +0100, Adriaan Renting wrote: > >>> On 17-2-2018 at 22:02, in message > , > Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Steven D'Aprano > > wrote: > >> If you're talking about common desktop computers, I think you're > >> forgetting how recent multicore mach

[OT] multicore/cpu history Re: Are the critiques in "All the things I hate about Python" valid?

2018-02-19 Thread Adriaan Renting
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Re: [OT] multicore/cpu history Re: Are the critiques in "All the things I hate about Python" valid?

2018-02-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM, Adriaan Renting wrote: > I remember running 2 Mendocino 300 MHz Celerons on a Pentium II Xeon > motherboard to get a > multi-cpu machine for running multiple virtual machines for testing > purposes around 1998. > This was not as Intel intended, but a quite cheap c